Navy Cultural and Natural Resources

today was just a quick welcome and then very very quickly so that we all know who each other are we’re going to go through the room and very loudly please say your name whether you’re with natural cultural or your see paleo see PLO or what your affiliation is and what installation you work at or where you work at so we can kind of figure out who’s in the room so I’ll quickly get started my name is Tammy konkol i work at commander Navy installations command and i am the natural and cultural resources program manager all right I go right after i’m lieutenant commander Jim roach I am the CN IC encroachment action officer I work somewhat with Tammy and a lot with a number of other folks related to environmental and installations I’m bill manly navik head coach cultural resources work in DC go ahead Gail jus ever meet hi I’m ever commit I used to work with built the nebula I’m a historian at back south west san diego and i work ugly old woman okay we’re just trying to do names I’m Hillary shanker NASA headquarters Jim Cassidy in fact Southwest Andy cultural resource management nds go to FX outstanding so for the cultural people in the room they don’t know that’s the money man right there hugs and kisses are welcome dubs good south east and southeast Leland gods are on sale of Corpus Christi go Roger and i’m giving out of for him cuz i was born at Millington woohoo

those two cell plus new car smell coordinated and Michelle rub dan Darrell Jeff aired yourself please sir and the gentleman sitting next to you I’m sorry yeah yeah you might not find it very interesting but you can certainly listen one of the things we wanted to do by this session today was make sure that we all know each other so that I found that very helpful I think one of the things that will really help the Navy is if we start integrating more our natural cultural and encouragement sides of the house so Kelly Brock wasn’t able to attend today because she hurt her back and so she sends her regrets and she saw that she couldn’t be here but she did send out a call for questions for the group for the natural resources side of the house and we did get responses and one of the things that was readily apparent by the responses was that there there’s a lot of questions about who works for who I will tell you that I’m not going to get into roles and responsibilities if you have questions about roles and responsibilities especially between C and icy and nav faq I suggest you talk to your chain of command or read the conops and if you have any questions that we can address it after that but I mean that is a complicated issue and we could spend an hour and a half just talking about that so that said we’re going to talk about Navy organization a little bit and I’m going to just claim this information by saying that the Navy has constantly be organizing and the information that I have here was pulled off the web and it was dated two thousand six and two thousand seven conceptually though I think it’s accurate and I think it explains the major question about the difference between c and i c’n a so everybody knows the Secretary of the Navy and who the Secretary of the Navy is and what their purpose is that I wanted to just make sure that everybody’s aware in case they aren’t that the Department of the Navy which falls into the Secretariat does encompass both the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps we are just the United States Navy here in the room today unless somebody for the Marine Corps decide is join us which I didn’t hear so that said we’re one half of the secretariat’s office most of the folks that you were you will hear about from the secretariat’s office our mr dant regardez he’s the deputy assistant secretary of the Navy for environment and mr. Tom Egeland mr. John Pearson they both support mr. surg artists and for the purposes of the cultural resources conversation mr. Suge artists is our federal preservation officer so our designated and so that’s bill we’ll talk about that a little bit later so if you go on to the website for the Navy I’m it kind of shows you this wonderful org chart that shows you how the Secretary of the Navy has different support functions and you’ll see at the very bottom there I don’t know if this will work I usually talk with my hands so this is kind of weird here’s the chief of naval operations and the Commandant of the Marine Corps now we’re going to focus on this part of the secretary the Navy just tifa naval operations actually I should point out that mr. Suge artists works in this office which is now called installations energy and environment is that right it’s got an extra e in there now so then we get to the chief of naval operations and he said the four-star Admiral that’s responsible for all the Navy supports the secretary and when you get to the CNO staff we’re talking about just the CNO staff these are the people that work under the CNO and this is where you for the folks that are new can start

understanding some of these in codes and how they relate to definitions so n1 is manpower personnel education and training & tues information which is kind of combined within six but and four is fleet readiness and logistics & eights integration of capabilities and resources the key word there being resources these are the money people and then n 3 and 5 and this is reorganized operations plans and strategies and if you are more than welcome commander george to correct me at any moment because they have reorganized a lot since this material this i just wanted to get I know you get nobody can read this but the purpose of this slide is to show you that this is the staff of CNO and so you know people will say oh I work at CA no and 45 ever get cnic and 45 the people that are shown on all this I chart are that are the individuals and the commanders and the Admirals that support the chief of naval operations directly so they’re on his direct train alliance staff and so I can’t even read it myself but somewhere in here this general area is n 4 and underneath and four we have to program sponsors for natural and cultural resources we have CNO and 45 and we have CNO and 46 and so CN 46 is represented by Commander George and Kelly if she was here she would be representing CNO and 45 and Earl and is back there he also supports CNO and 45 so that’s that’s the separation there and unfortunately I have no idea where your funding comes from commander so some are in 10 and 4 so then underneath the CNO there he has what they call operating forces and I think this is very odd because of the terminology but CN IC which is naval installations falls under what they call operating forces under see you know because I believe the way that I understand it it’s because the stand up of Navy installations was essentially that’s the shore fleet you know you have the operating lead and then you have the shore the shore support for the fleet and so it’s our Admiral Admiral Vitaly he he sits there on that side so CN IC supports the fleet fighter and family and our mission is deliver effective and efficient readiness from the shore and the vision is to be the sole provider of shore capability to support and sustain the fleet and able the fighter and support the family so if you look at CN IC it’s organized into regions and most of you know that because you’re from the regions and then it’s each region has installations underneath it this is our current org chart for the regional commanders and then the primary staffs within Admiralty tallies chain of command and i’m i’m commander roach and cheryl and i support captain campbell in in four and i’m in c and i see and 45 as it’s cheryl and Commander roaches in CN i c’n 444 so so then you have the shore establishment which by definition you think would be seen i see but it’s not so yet i see this is where you have the bureau of naval personnel bureau medicine and surgery and nav facts right here so if you get to nav fact we got most of you support now fact but essentially nav fact is the systems command that delivers and maintains quality and sustainable facilities acquires and managers capabilities for the navy’s expeditionary combat forces provides contingency engineering response and enables inner journey energy security and environmental stewardship the realignment of CN IC assets at the regional level to work under now fact happened a while ago so the environmental part of that piece now includes the CN IC funded staff and so so that’s essentially the overview part of the debrief and I I appreciate that was fast and furious but hopefully now kind of have context in which to put the people that you know within the Navy so for the purposes of our chain of command at CN IC be report to Admiral Vitaly and then a fact side of the house reports Tamara massey and they are we all sit in the same building but we do work for different Admirals so with that I will turn it over to Bill manly and he can give you an overview of the cultural resources program unless there’s any questions does anybody have any questions do I look like a computer person I have no idea where is it down okay hi everybody I just to get help me

get oriented to the two cuz I need to be talking about cultural resources i know not everyone here deals with cultural resources can you give me a show of hands how many folks here deal with cultural resources directly Wow okay cool that’s the most of the group sorry sorry to the folks who aren’t doing cultural resources I’ll try not to I’ll try to talk to you too next question how many folks here were were able to come to our Navy all-day session on sunday we really had a great turnout and I want to thank you all for making that sacrifice to come now here’s the hard question and I want you to really be honest how many of you folks who came on Sunday feel it was worthwhile great me too i think it was great sunday be session we also had a separate navy session so i thought ours was worthwhile oh I’m talking only cultural down oh I guess I don’t know where you work so i can’t answer how that happened but okay so Tammy talked about that the Navy organization in a in a broad conceptual way I’m going to do a similar thing briefly about the Navy cultural resources organizational structure similarly with disclaimers and you know deniability all over it but but the point here is just to show you in general terms a couple of basic things obviously a lot of folks are down here but I wanted you to see what the organization in general terms looks like above you or around or wherever you are essentially and crucially these yellow labels indicate a role or a responsibility that’s linked with the regulatory requirements particularly national short preservation act so we have sex navizon head of the agency we have this this is in brackets the senior policy official this is a position that’s identified in preserve America has never really been formally designated but there some talk that that we may at some point but certainly if we did it would be the asn we have the dassin who is the federal preservation officer mr. garnet Tammy mentioned then dfp 0 which is my office navik headquarters and then these obviously the agency official would be the the undertaking responsible official in pretty much all cases and then here are the managers and the typically the qualified support would come not necessarily echelon 3 this is very simplified it could be a regional office as well but you get the idea now then the other side of this of this is the is the program sponsorship which Tammy made reference to which is under CNO is is n 46 which is the program sponsor for cultural resources and and CN IC which is the program manager and as you know manages the the palm process and execution just real quick I’m an interrupt bill which is rude but just so everybody understands program sponsor means that they’re the entity within the organization that asks for money and tells what your program requirements are up the chain of command and they defend what your requirements are so that they can try and get you funding and then I think the other thing that’s important to call out from this org chart is the concept of echelon ashalon one two and three because that seems a little confusing and I’ll tell you why it is confusing and that’s why this is a good shark because once you go down the nav fact chain there’s an added echelon and if you go down the CN IC chain so the numbers change at the bottom so if you talk about your friends if you’re talking about Diego and epsilon 1 people call second a bachelor long by the terms of what we’re discussing right now do you know with the Echelon one CN IC and a fat cake quarters would be soo to the regional commanders would be a Shalon three and the installation commanding officers would be a show on for you go down the math back side exelon to then you jump down exon 3 lanten pack and then when you get back to the installation your initial on for well no then you get to the region which is echelon for and then I don’t think it really is an echelon five but if there is and that becomes insulation so the regional commanders in the net back chain but that’s really good nap back and for we are are we are one less etch lon technically on the nav back side than they are on the CN IC side so sometimes and we’re not going to talk about this but I just want to say this as a disclaimer sometimes we send tasker’s out Navy tasker’s and they go through the CN IC j and that’s because

cnic can’t really technically direct all the way down to an echelon three it’s a very you have to understand that that’s a jump to go over there so we had that discussion on Sunday about why when we send out tasker’s from CN IC they don’t come through land impact and that’s because NASA is not in our chain of command that way so because when we send out they come through this cnic to the regional commanders do the installation commanding officers okay okay so what I want to talk about in relation to the organization is and this these are kind of lumped together for expedience purposes here but I want to talk about three aspects of organizational change within the cultural resources community the first one and i’m looking at a two-year span essentially arbitrarily defined since the last SMR conference in two years time the cultural resources program overall navy wide has gained more than two dozen qualified professionals that is real growth in the in the in the in the competency that we have in this organization what i’m calling alignment here is essentially a a better recognition clearer I mean it’s it’s a process clearly that that has a long way to go but in the last couple years we’ve definitely seen improved understanding of the relationships on the role so for example that org chart that we just flashed up there and talked about for a while that’s a relatively new artifact where we could where we could put in one place how do these issues come together it’s still very complicated but we’re getting closer to understanding how we work the disc essentially matrix organization that supports a a chain of command hierarchy and I was just mentioned here that that there’s the the new cultural resources chapter significant revision of the cultural resources shepton in the opnet 5090 goes a long way toward codifying and and clarifying for everyone how we work together how we manage cultural resource responsibilities then the last one i will add here is what i’m calling recognition which is that with as weird as alignment is getting clearer as the program is growing as we’ve got a lot of great people and i really wish i had time to acknowledge all the new great people in cultural resources in the room but it would take too long i’m afraid i’ll just tell you that i really i’m really thrilled that the people we have that this that this growth has resulted in part in a better recognition of what the cultural resources program does for the Navy we’re more visible we have commander george here from op navin 46 we are well connected to CN IC now at the asn level at the dance and level cultural resources is much more visible and engaged in how the Navy works than ever before and that is very significant progress I think and I think that’s something that’s going to bode well for us in the future okay data this is us this is a summary chart this is this a CN IC chart this is a petition of cns future you can see here and we could spend a long time talking about this but but it’s a summary of what the Navy is is about as it comes to cope as a as comes from culture from the perspective of cultural resources and critically this this data section here this is what comes out of our the last version of the debt park and that’s occasion for some discussion we we know that that some of the debt park data some of the questions that we answer when we do def park data calls don’t particularly make sense in navy terms we know that some of the answers that we’ve gotten when we ask those questions are a little confused the answers have been a little confused and we know that the processes of digesting that data into charts like this and into the debt park itself the report that goes to Congress has introduced more confusion so there are issues here and it’s important because cultural resources really is data in a lot of ways and so it’s we are working hard at headquarters level and we’re going to be asking for more support from from the community to improve the quality of what we can what we know and can report about about what the program manages so I’m calling this slide data trends and here and for purposes again of expediency i have included cultural resources program requirements costs and the direct link to Mission Support has critical data points related to our program I mean I could do a whole slide

on funding and mission support but for purposes of this brief I just want to say that this is critical data that we report through our through the palm process and through our through our responses to data calls that helps our organization understand what cultural resources is all about you know if anything we’ve heard through this week at various points from Sunday until today is that cultural resources need is is sometimes left out of the discussion until too late sometimes not understood it all or misunderstood critically until it’s too late and the need to be engaged early I believe this is this is a number one requirement in terms of early engagement with cultural resources so that the palm process you’ve all just been through and and the work that will continue to demonstrate how the program supports the mission this is crucial data that we that we manage we will you’ll hear more about I think Tammy’s got some some live connection that will use in a little bit about a new cultural resource natural cultural resources data center that is being developed connected with EMS web that has much greater functionality and we’ve ever seen in terms of our data management capability and it will the intent and we’re really we’ve really gone a long way to toward this goal already is that it will serve not only as a data collection resource but it will also be a management tool that the installation and regional managers will have the ability to to use we hope on a regular basis the goal of this is it will be entirely functional as a data management for you I just want to note that the that the data the built environment data call that we ran last year generated a lot of very valuable data that will support us well as we go before department defense for the environmental management review later in the year and the the data there has still great utility and we will we’re not going to run that data call this next year but we will definitely want to do it again in the future after you’ve had more chance to digest it because again it’s critical to explain the built environment that that we deal with so much it’s very important that installation planners and various decision-makers understand where we are and where our challenges are I mentioned debt park data review we are working headquarters folks are working znse and navigate course folks are working with DoD and our service compatriots to to revise the questions I’ll put it that way in general terms we’re looking at the questions trying to make the case to the federal preservation officer of the Department of Defense that we need to clarify the questions and bring them a little more into focus so that they actually correspond to the DoD cultural resources metrics and the goal there is to get better data and to make it more efficient and less of a burden to generate that data there’s a lot of processing that goes on now that seems not to help we’d like to avoid that then the last one is just kind of kudos to everyone who participates in the executive order one 3175 a report that we just generated we’re already getting a lot of appreciation from DoD for again doing a great job of responding to that data call that’s that’s a very important and it’ll continue that will grow as we as we see changes in the the DoD instruction for tribal coordination we expect that change to occur you think I’m not sure by the end of fiscal year but before very long the instruction will be modified to incorporate NHO coordination and consultation just the same as other tribal consultation okay so with all we’ve heard all week you know the and very much here as well the issue is that we were always communicating with with our chain of command among ourselves with our outside stakeholders about what cultural resources is all about wherever we’re whatever the areas that we’re managing and what we’ve been we’ve worked hard in the past year and you’ll soon see in fact I think you can now see if the link works in the email that we sent out last week you can see wait a minute violin lesson hold on and she has violent like right now my husband is taking her I won’t be yeah so

I just want to give a brief overview many of you may already be very familiar with the with the program metric I am very enthusiastic about this I believe that this is going to be while it’ll be tough at first there are a lot of challenges inherent in this kind of in this kind of a metric a goal because of the fact that that we’re we will be asking for input and participation from a very broad set of stakeholders I guess you could call them internal stakeholders and external stakeholders and the chain of command to engage with us in giving us feedback from various it’s not quite a 360 360 degree review but it’s a little bit like that in terms of you know asking for how well are we doing we will generate those values from multiple perspectives and so the primary goal of this is to is to gather information to show how well we’re doing over time it’s not intended especially not the first time out of the out of the chute which will be hope we hope will be this fall to be kind of a grading exercise 22 ding people on good or bad you know especially the bad scores the intent is to generate a baseline of what’s really going on because we certainly know that that we’re not that not everything is running great the point is to get real information about how we’re doing from different perspectives so that we can then move forward and this definitely will be an annual data call this will be a task earth against gets sent down from CN IC so it’ll happen this is being we were tasked to dump to develop this by by the CN IC Admiral mr. Suge artists fpo is also very strong on this as information that he wants to see that’s comparable not the same but sort of comparable to the natural resources metrics that he looks forward to seeing now so just quickly the program metric which we developed last year and we’ve been sort of beta testing and modifying over the past year looks at nine aspects of what a cultural resources program is I won’t read them all they’re sort of self-explanatory I think for the most part there’s lots to say about all of them and you can see lots of information about them on the website crucial information here is that the not all of these questions are and not all of these these are these are focus areas and then within these nine focus areas there are criteria essentially questions or or measures to that you then yield a an index for a specific focus area not all the focus areas and certainly not all the questions are asked of everyone so internal stakeholders depending on what your relationship is to this will get a subset obviously the CR managers collectively defined will have access to them all but other internal stakeholders will get a subset we’re not going to ask you know planners to tell us how complete our surveys are and similarly on the external stakeholder side there will be a subset of questions that’s focused on the kinds of alcohol m indices of performance that they have a direct relationship to this is not intended I know there’s a lot of sensitivity about the idea that we will be giving shippo’s and tip o’s or affected tribes or you know the blue-haired ladies of the warehouse district some special power over us that is not I don’t believe that’s going to happen this is a communication tool that and you know if you look at nhp a there’s no question that we have a responsibility to communicate and this is we think this is going to be a way to bring that into into focus so you’ll be seeing that soon and we’re going to we know there will be lots to talk about major program goals for cultural resources in the next year feel the program metric a focus our funding efforts on and our execution efforts on communicating success in supporting the mission I think I’ve got a phrasing problem there in that bullet but the point is to communicate how even at the smallest level I think it’s going to be important to recognize that when the program runs well and we support day-to-day requirements that’s mission support we we want to gather that I think the metric will help us with this but always through the process we want to be able to communicate that when the program runs well it supports the mission curation compliance has gotten a lot of attention lately and so we’ll be talking more about that we’re on task actually to present a brief to mr. surg artists pretty soon about what we’re

doing with curation to improve our performance because he was lots of folks are concerned about how low the number is that were we reached the the great height of 12 point nine percent we report of being in compliance with our collections so we’re going to be working on that soon we’re working to improve cultural resource and proven expand cultural resources training to make it more broadly available and more up-to-date and responsive the management database I’ve already talked a lot about that and execution efficiencies is a big topic we talked a lot about this on Sunday I’m not going to go through all of it now but it’s essentially looking for ways to expand our our in-house capabilities because we can be much more responsive and efficient when we’re working in-house in many situations that are run through a contract looking for ways to expand the use of cooperative agreements and see Sue’s yes CC is you can tell how much I know about CSIS but these are these are opportunities we have to increase our efficiency and that’s all for me well I think we’re taking questions at the end so we’ll we’ll go to the next one it’s me so actually one of the things that I wanted to talk about real quickly was that I had the privilege of teaching the past two senior Shore leadership classes to the new coming commanding officers and I wanted to share with you the information that we’re putting out to the commanding officers and I’m sorry I thought I copied it over but I didn’t to think about where I’m going face again uh-huh my brains not working anymore help fighting something I just need to see like the computer guy said at my computer and I don’t do it this way at home so it causes me problems crap sorry just give me a minute everybody talk amongst yourselves so anyway part of the senior leadership course we talked about I get the privilege of teaching the NEPA natural and cultural resources class and so when we were talking about giving an overview to the folks in the room about what what we do every day I thought this was a good a good kind of brief to go through and I’m not going to go through every slide because what I’m trying to articulate to the small group of Natural Resources people on the room as well as the culture resources people that we’re not here on sunday is that we we sit down and we talked with the commanding officers and we try and give them a message of what they need to remember when they get to their bases in order to be effective commanding officers and you realize this is a three-week course that’s been smooshed into kind of two and a half two weeks and it’s it is like the fire hose of classes and and really the goal is to get the commanding officers to remember something enough so they’ll look it up like I think that’s the the major goal because they’re getting every single type of training you could possibly imagine Human Resources ordinance cap state though she went through the class I mean it’s crazy isn’t it so it’s like boom boom oh and they’re working nonstop for like three days it’s great I mean for three weeks it’s crazy so we’re just trying to give them an overview of these statutes we talk about NEPA we talk about types of NEPA documents you know I’ve had a CEO who I love dearly so I’m not saying this in a bad way that called a Fonzie you know he thought Fonzie was from Happy Days so we kept saying Fonzie and he was just like what are you talking about you know so this is good you know good information what triggers NEPA how NEPA works how NEPA relates to UM to other laws how it’s done overseas what they need to consider and NEPA cultural resources preservation statutes Natural Resources protection statutes other laws and regulations that they have to consider in the NEPA process and then we talked about cultural resources where we highlight that it’s not the same as all the other environmental programs that we have a different program sponsor and then we talk about the main laws the National stork Preservation Act archaeological resource protection act nagpur ah Native American Grayson protect protection and repatriation Act we talk about I cramps talk about in fads and this is really important because we kind of drive home within fats that in order for you to have good planning on your base so you can do what you want to do you need to have up to date in fat so it kind of puts that that concept into their head that they are charged with this as well and then we talked about the metrics and then I think this is probably the most

important part of what we teach them it’s what questions you ask the installation the CR manager we do the same for natural resources we talk about sykes act and integrated natural resource management plans I certainly hope for those of you that are cultural resources spokes in the room and the CP ellos you know what it integrated natural resources management plan is if you don’t then call me and we will have a one-on-one class about it for at least eight hours because I am an expert and I can talk about it for a very very long time the point here though is that integrated natural resources management plans are really the foundation for our programs and they feed other documents which are hugely important such as EIS is tap planning documents and the commanding officer is in saying when he signs or she signs a document that they are agreeing to what’s in this document as the natural resources management program and that they have mutual agreement from the state Fish and Wildlife Service and sometimes Noah it is hugely important for our mission side of the house because it does help us sometimes on the exclusion of critical habitat so it becomes a very very important statute for us there are definitely parallels between integrated natural resource management plans and cultural resource integrated cultural resource management plans but one of the things that we’ve had to do in the past a couple of years I guess is make sure that our integrated natural resources management plans address not only lands that we own but lands that we use via license permit or lease and withdrawn lands I think the first round we didn’t do the best job defining what our resources are and then how they should be protected the other thing that we’re doing now is we’re making sure that our nearshore environments are addressed and I know that gets to be a very very grey grey area when it comes to at sea ranges I’m going to answer the question right now we’re not doing integrated natural resource management plans for a three ranges we’re doing it for the nearshore environment so Sykes act has ten required elements this just kind of gives you a highlight of those if you’re not a natural resources person you’ll see that you know it does include educational outreach enforcement so a lot of dealing with the community because if you’re talking about ecosystem management you need to make sure that your understanding what’s going on outside the fence and let’s go how that affects you and with climate change and the requirements in the new do di to address climate change I think that’s going to become even more important how we’re communicating with our our neighbors and the most important of the site the most important part of the psychics act is the requirement to ensure no net loss and the capability of the military installation lands to support the mission that’s the purpose of an interim bottom line you’re making a plan that’s integrating the natural resources management with the military mission it’s not a bugs and bunny document it is the integration of mission and natural resources so then we have the essay issues lots of ESA issues if you saw any of the briefs this week you’ll you’ve seen that side that that’s put out that talks about the fact that the 30 million acres of DoD lands has almost the most endangered species with the Navy leading the way because of our coastal assets but it’s important for commanding officers to understand that there are endangered species and you can’t bump them on the head and how the process works and what the terms are take and what that means to them then we kind of show them the imperiled species distribution map which is a little bit older but it gets the message across if you look at Navy installations they’re kind of where all those little orange dots are so that becomes an issue because those are where the imperiled species are this is the the graph i was talking about that shows the DoD lands in comparison to the number of listed species we have and then the big issue that we want to drive home with the commanding officers is that you need to make sure that somebody in you’re in for shop however you choose to delegate that is tracking potential esa requirements on your installation so if your have any proposed designations proposed critical habitat designations proposed listed species our expectations that were responding to that and I think it’s good for everybody in this audience to understand that this is exceptionally important issue to the Secretariat and the reason that it is so important is because the original NDA a language that got us the exclusions for our integrated natural resources management plans on DOD lands and because of our integrated natural resource management plans was absolutely you know the head flag holder and that whole effort was the Navy and so it’s almost like a personal and I don’t mean this in a bad way it’s like almost a personal attack against the Navy if we get designation of critical habitat because we were definitely the energy behind that law moving forward and it’s a big deal so that’s why it is a very there’s a secretariat memo on it how how it works you have if you’re going to respond to a federal

designation has to go through n4 and that’s not you’re in for that’s CNO and for so usually when it happens it has to be dealt with very quickly then we have migratory bird treaty act issues of course this is a big shoe on the Navy because of fdm it resulted in the final rule and there’s a lot of issues related to this that I think we’re not doing a good job addressing in our integrated natural resource management plans so we need to make sure that our integrated natural resources management plans are doing justice to migratory birds because when we have issues like boardman what we’re talking about doing a range GIS and we haven’t adequately addressed the migratory birds and the e is because our interrupts are short on the information then when it gets to the military readiness rule on the dish you of significance it gets complicated it’s just gonna and then we talk about bald and golden eagle Protection Act primarily because it’s a new issue with the recent d listing of the the bald eagle the issue of permitting the take of bald and golden eagles has become an issue and honor on our Western installations I think it might become a little bit of a hiccup I guess we’ll have to see what the Air Force what the Air Force situation is then obviously the Marine Mammal Protection Act we highlight that that issue and the fact that it is also something that they need to be focused on and it requires a great deal of coordination with CNO and 45 near shore environmental issues are always big you know on navy bases the near shore area is essential fish habitat and obviously coral reef Coastal Zone Management Act and then we have our own in run metrics you know the cultural resources program is leading their way with their metrics but we’ve had our metrics I will say to the Natural Resources folks in the audience we’re in the process of reviewing the questions and updating them so that they’re ready and out in the fall so hopefully they’ll be better I’m going to say that again they will be better finger they are going to be better because I’ve hated them since 2000 and former so so this is the other thing I really like about the the brief is that we you know we explained to the CEO these are the questions you have to ask and because we had these questions in our brief they put together this handbook for the ce o–‘s that kind of says when you get there these are the questions that you need to ask so it is very helpful so this kind of is the overview that says this is how you make sure you have good environmental planning and and that’s that’s just one element of the overall the program recently is that new new issue and I don’t know how to make this go away the 50-90 as it’s being updated will address nearshore issues and processing integrated natural resources management plans a bit better once the 5090 is done which should be in september-october we’ve been tasked by CNO to update the interim guidance so I do appreciate for many of the installations out there that the integrated natural resource management plan guidance is confusing in some realms and it does need to be updated and I appreciate that but until the 50-90 is done we really we need to wait on the interim guidance to be updated that said if you have any questions about an interrupt that’s happening in the next several months be sure to ask me and we can certainly work towards what the expectations are for the new the new guidance in rooms in general I will say we have a requirement out there that the integrated natural resources management plans get sent up to see and I see for review and I I’m the lucky soldier that gets to review them i guess i should say sailor and for lack of a better way of saying it they haven’t been the greatest and so i will tell you that it’s very disturbing to me because that shows a lack of ownership over integrated natural resource management plans and if you don’t have ownership over those plans then you’re not going to be able to support the mission and you’re not going to be able to ensure the exclusion of critical habitat and so I just ask that when you go back to your installations you really focus on making sure that those plans are doing your base justice and that they do represent what your installation commanding officer your regional commander desire for that asset because right now I don’t think they’re meeting the mark and I’d remind you all that the 5090 clearly states is the installation commanding officers responsibility to make sure that that documents done and so it’s it’s you’re representing them and the completion of that document so at this point because the ones we’ve been seeing have not been good I’m asking to see all the in rumps it complete in rumps because if i look at an inn rump and i know it’s out of date and i’ve been away from the field for almost two years now there’s a problem so just really focus on your integrated natural resource management plans no because I don’t want to affect the

contracting process so usually it’s we’re not sending a lot of a map for public review but it’s usually before the public review part because I don’t want to inflame and then I just throw a wrench on the system that doesn’t help out any any either and I’m going to give you a little bone here but it’s just a bone swap them we are also trying to figure out maybe better ways to do the neat buffer in rome’s everybody supposed to break out loud cheers right thank you very much okay look I am NOT the Navy is the Secretary of the Navy and there’s a memo that expressly says that we do need bond and rumps and so if you would like to talk you know to miss pfannenstiel or miss mr. sugar artists and get them to rewrite that memo then will you go right ahead what I think I think we’re working towards something that might work out a little bit better and makes more sense but I’m just saying if you’re having problems and you’re struggling with NEPA then let’s talk about it instead of your wrenching your hands on the field because I don’t think the intent was to make this as hard as it is I’ll just say that that said with natural resources metrics you you heard mentioned that I that were redoing the Natural Resources metrics if you’re meeting with your regulatory agencies in the next couple months we’re gonna have to figure out a way to deal with the fact that you’re answering the old questions the old website should be closed you should not be able to access the old website we’re going to talk about the new website in a minute so if you plan on doing your natural resources metro to 4 sep tember i probably need to talk to you about that palm thank you all for supporting palm 14 I very much appreciate it and then I want to make sure that those folks in the room know that the hard work that you did for natural resources in 2012 for palm 12 pardon me resulted in what is unheard of today and that’s a program of record increase for natural resources in on this seat on the natural resources side we got a 12 million dollar increase that’s amazing in today’s budget terms that is unheard of and it was because we went we did a lot work we defended our program and the we primarily being Kelly in this scenario but we validated and we put it in the system and she did a lot of hard work and defended our program and and I think rightfully so we’re finally going to be able to deal with that bow wave that we’ve been dealing with since 2001 so I’m very excited about that I will say and I will emphasize probably a program goal that bill mentioned and that’s if we don’t have a way to execute those funds then they will be certainly taken away so for those of you that primarily sport execution in the room we need to figure this out because if we don’t execute this money it’s walking out the door and this and it this is like your last chance so I wouldn’t mess with the chance that you’ve been given communication I’ve been working with Neph at headquarters to figure out a way to maybe do a monthly phone call so I think we’re going to probably institute that once execution season is over and then data calls well in addition to that we have an our new website and we’ll show you that in a little bit and then the data calls there’s a rumor running a foot and I just kind of want to make sure that we deal with this rumor that there is no more def park and I think the accurate statement is that there will be data calls every year that guy pushed up to the Secretariat and up to do OD OD but we won’t be having a deaf Park report like the actual report the glossy pretty report that gets sent up to Congress and it’s like three inches thick I don’t think that’s going to happen and I think that was a cost savings effort we still have to submit the data we will be doing a debt park but there won’t be a deaf our report handed out so I think everybody heard that they’re like we’re good but that’s not what it was you just were not going to have a report so that’s that and that’s really all I have so I will turn it over to Commander roach and we’ll talk about any questions at the end and the reason we’re talking about questions at the end I apologize is because some folks have to leave today so we’re trying to get through some of this material before those folks have to leave what’s yours called sir it is perfect all right thanks Tammy for those of you this is actually really great for me because I’ve not been in a room with more people with an architectural background since I joined the Navy about 12 years ago i’m an architect so the truth beat in the background there and yeah so i have all that background i’m also a civil engineer Corps officer which means i deal with facilities and installations among other things and I deal with a lot of the threats to those facilities and installations so you can see a common thread here we deal with a lot of buildings that’s my background we

deal with threats installations exist to support missions and one of the ways that we like to think about that is if those missions can’t continue the installation has limited viability a lot of things that may threaten them go under the term encroachment which has gotten a lot of bad rap at this conference actually so we’ve got encroachment we’ve got mission sustainment mission compatibility different sides of the same coin I’m going to talk a little bit about what encroachment is I was asked to put a brief together just a general brief dealing with encroachment to summarize encroachment for a few of our op nav folks and that a few folks turned into a conference room of about twelve Admirals another dozen or so senior senior civil service members and we want to given an overview of our non program of record so at CN IC we deal with encroachment hand-in-hand with nav back so the similar problem that a lot of people seem to have what environmental things does now fact you what a CN IC do encroachment is very similar to that encroachment management we work at the headquarters level at the regional level and at the installation level very directly with mafic in fact I’ve got regional community plans and liaison officers at every US region so I don’t deal with Asia I don’t deal with Europe but I do deal with everything both in conus as well as Guam and Marianas I deal with all of the installations we currently have installation cpls or community plans liaison officers at about half of our installations a little under half we’re hoping to grow that but that actually is very significant for us the the CPL oposition started out as a very informal nav fact type position varied depending on where you were cnic codified that a little over a year ago in an instruction and so now we have a growing number of community planes in the A’s on officers I’ll talk a little bit about what they do I’ll talk a little bit about an overview of our current state of problems and other initiatives that were underway and where we’re going so without a whole further ado I will say this is a very quick top level overview encroachment 101 what are our challenges how do they impact our missions a lot of people may not be familiar with what a lot of our bases are doing and what are those threats to those missions I’ll talk about where we stand today and we’ll show kind of the infamous dashboard my boss where my boss’s boss’s boss’s boss Admiral Vitali loves dashboards so if your boss is interested you’re fascinated by it we have dashboards but we’ll talk about how that relates back to our encroachment management instructions and where they stand so and I’ll give a few takeaways so this is an eye chart but it’ll give you a little idea of a lot of the things that we deal with are actually a lot of the things you deal with our encroachment instruction the CN IC encroachment instruction goes back to 2007 op nav instruction and then if you follow it back to a number of other related instructions I’ve got about two dozen pieces of paper that fill a 4 inch thick binder and that really comes back to about the early 1970s with the aqs program so you’ll start to see all these acronyms you can see that box off to the right if you thought environmental was hard now I’m going to deal with a whole bunch of different acronyms but a lot of them overlap air installations compatibility use zones was a federal program that was initiated in the early 70s and we had a really nice thick instruction that stood unchanged for a think 27 years something like that but it deals with air stations and specifically what are compatible uses around air stations as you know we have issues with particular overlap and environmental concerns with air stations but we have very specific issues with urban development that’s a huge one so that really made it as one of our top 14 encroachment concerns so again thinking about where our air stations are and how they’ve developed urban development around our air stations was a huge concern a related concern to that of course noise you can see some overlaps with environmental their competition for air land at sea space we’re competing with everybody everything out there for the use of some very limited space many of our installations of course are in urban environments as you know others are just a near the littoral in places where people want to be near the beach near this really nice expensive real

estate and many of our missions are in fact not at all complimentary with what someone’s vacation home might want to be but we compete with scarce resources as well that’s particularly a common in the west where we’ve competed for years for water the near littoral as as Tammy mentioned these are areas just offshore where we’re competing now for again just rights to move through the water we’re also seeing a girl growing interest in energy development if you asked a few years ago that would have been oil and oil leases now it’s wind where it will be in the future not sure the erection of power lines offshore and connected to the shore from wind turbines all our potential threats all may impact our operations but we don’t quite know how so we need to study that threaten an endangered species everyone’s favorite wildlife habitat and this is a really common area where we overlap with the environmental and the cultural resources community and yet we don’t do enough talking I sit on the same floor as our environmental people and in fact when I walk in in the morning I say good morning environmental I get in there a little after seven o’clock most environmental folks are already there and so they they’re there and they’re there sometimes after i leave i put in a pretty long day i I’m a 24-7 kind of person wearing the uniform the environmental folks hurt if they’re on the phone to Europe in the morning and they’re on the phone to Guam and Japan in the afternoon so and into the evening so we were there and we’re talking but we’re not sharing a lot of that information and part of the problem is that we will talk about the same basis we have the same triggers for studies we’re doing environmental impact statements for missions that will also affect noise use of space an interesting thing right now we we have some of our areas with the largest problems we focus on one aspect of that if I talk about the boardman range we talked about wind development I have three state listed species and the boardman area I have one that was just fast-tracked it’s one of the 250 one that got fast-tracked under he sa and I have the cutest little Oregon Washington ground squirrel excuse me and we have the last remaining 74 thousand acres of its habitat in Washington State everything around there is crop circles and it’s migrated onto our our ranges the good story there is that we fly above those ranges we don’t bomb them anymore the ground squirrel likes to borrow and dig around the unexploded ordnance and it doesn’t tend to set much of it off so we’ve got some pretty good compatible use there but that’s not always the case and it doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re a success story we have missions that will continue to change we have maritime issues that same range is part of a Northwest training ranges complex we have offshore ranges that CN IC doesn’t particularly have any authority over but we certainly have local communities that are interested and we’re the face of the Navy and they’re often who they come to we have a lot of issues right now just outside of our installations for instance in Puget Sound their cultural and their natural we have some testing areas where we deal with the local tribes the salmon that are taken there are cultural assets to some of those local tribes and so there are some particular issues there and how we manage the use of those areas for our missions for our testing missions as well as for operational missions and then the usual suspects that are everybody’s problem exploded unexploded ordnance safety arcs again when we store munitions or we use munitions that creates safety zones that’s problem for us when they extend beyond our potential areas of interest frequency spectrum we deal with that less in terms of the communications issues but we certainly deal with it in terms of our radar issues and wind particularly with wind turbines air and water quality environmental regulations interagency coordination we don’t deal well with coordination unfortunately we don’t always know what other people are up to and we spend the same resources doing the same thing and slightly disconnected timeframes and we’re not always grated sharing that information not because we don’t want to but because we often don’t know who else is working on that information so I spend a lot more time talking with our energy people they sit on the other side of my my area environmental on one side energy on the other side and then just legislative initiatives that’s that’s really huge we see not just federal but we see state legislative initiatives and that is a

huge reactionary mode we’re not actively seeking out that information as well as we could but what that all means for us is we don’t do our mission as well we have less ability to do it we can’t do it near as we like we have less access to certain ranges we can’t operate in a realistic way that simulates how we would offer normally in a mission in a hostile environment so that that’s a problem for us how do we manage it that there’s our little yellow box community planning or Community Plan and liaison officers you’ll hear the Marines the Air Force and the Navy talk about that acronym a little bit different but these are your forward observers these are people out in the field they operate a lot like in many cases you do they go to community meetings they gather information they understand who wants to do what they get heckled they get accused of being uninvolved and they keep a straight face and take a lot of that information back but they develop the relationships with the communities that are important in order to sustain our mission and to show that we’re not the bad guy we are actually interested in what the communities want and we don’t often know what they want so we’re collecting that information we create EAPs encroachment action plans we look for areas that conflict with our mission we look to see how they conflict and we look to see how we might interact with our local communities with our state governments with other agencies with NGOs we do a lot of encroachment partnering based on that most people wouldn’t realize that some of our larger ranges some of our larger areas we work very closely with the land trust with the Nature Conservancy we do a lot of work with OSD through environmental through the repeat program in fact Navy has been very singularly successful at getting a lot of money to protect a lot of our missions while at the same time protecting a lot of the habitat around our installations through that rep you wake us again we do studies fairly frequently for our air stations to understand what are compatible use zones around them we’ve been very successful at dealing with areas in tobacco I’ll point to the gentleman in the far corner in the orange shirt Randy Roy is one of our community plans liaison officers he’s worked at whiting field for how many years now ready three years comes from the operational background but what makes that kind of specialist he understands what the Air Station does on a different sort of level but what has been very interesting to us is our partnering for encroachment management around whiting field in fact it’s been so successful over really the last decade that we have the local county where na s wedding field and many of our outlying landing fields were located the county officials like to make an annual trip up to Washington and I got to visit while they briefed mr Leary’s boss this year and they had some very polite things to say about our efforts more to the point we’ve been very successful at protecting literally thousands of acres around whiting field and we do it with partnerships with the county as well as the state some of those are managed through private NGOs the Florida Forever program if people are familiar with it preserves a lot of green space in Florida we’ve been very successful at submitting partnered projects with rep Ian ish ative and we have indeed protected the both the North and the South fields two fields composed whiting field the Air Station and that will that will continue we hope to expand that to other areas but see pillows are key to that effort as well as environmental folks we need to know whom we can partner with we’re very successful with the Nature Conservancy we’re less successful with a lot of the smaller partners in a lot of the smaller governments we’re interested in protecting habitat because a lot of that habitat extends the range of critters or creatures that might otherwise take refuge on our installations but we’re also interested because it provides buffer zones around our installations where noise might be an issue or urban growth might be an issue we’re just incompatible growth so those are areas where we seek to partner range or rake use or rare range air installations compatibility use zones we drop a lot of things from the sky a lot less than we did before but we still have air-to-ground ranges and we look for compatibility around those as well in those areas we do do encroachment partnering jalis people might be familiar with joint land use studies or joint land use surveys call them but study is proper are things that we work with the Office of Economic oad Office of Economic Development but

through the jail is program we partner with local officials local agencies to ultimately do plans that assure compatible development and we hope to get them written into municipal code we’ve been very successful around oceania as an example of where jalis has worked quite well and we’ve done them all around the Gulf Coast the Southeast region has very successful jalis is already underway we’ve got two in Santa Rosa County actually we’ve got whiting field but we also have a joint Santa Rosa okaloosa Walton County I think jealous around eglin and that’s protected again thousands of acres by assuring compatible development County’s own areas they control certain development concerns that protect fragile ecology as well as our missions so we contribute to the economy these natural areas also contribute and they’re very interested in working with us on that so some great overlaps we need to as a take away from this slide work more closely with those who are also working off of the installation with the local environmental community with other NGOs who might spend into the local county state and who are interested in partnering with the Navy we have mutual goals some of the hot spots that we have right now we compete everywhere for air land and sea the country just simply has grown we are all looking to use the same space whether that’s air whether that’s land or the ocean Boardman was a subject that it’s a hot one this year it may not be next year certainly wasn’t a few years ago a moment by the way is a military operating area so it describes restricted airspace in some ways it describes the air corridors that lead there it doesn’t talk necessarily about the land beneath it but the landowners beneath that airspace are very concerned with their land we have a lot of growth for sustainable energy if any of you have been to some of the presentations this week you’ll understand that there is friction and people do not necessarily share the same opinion of energy development as it relates to mission so that is a continuing problem for us to understand the impacts to our missions we’re not opposed but we do want to understand that we have some compatible interest frequency spectrum it’s a huge issue for our radar sites they are being impinged on in many cases by reflected energy from wind turbines so many of these turbines as they spin their larger in profile than a 747 and they reflect things back at you it’s like putting a big ceiling fan in it and shooting rubber bands at it much of that reflected energy can come back to our radar systems confuse them lead to false images or trip early warning systems for weather events so we are definitely concerned about that urban development continues to be an issue we’re managing it again effectively around a lot of areas oceania we’re managing effectively not so well around Key West we have some very fragile low-lying key areas mangrove protected areas we fly above them we don’t damage them but they’re very popular for development of vacation homes and unfortunately the local county monroe county in florida doesn’t do an adequate job protecting that and they would like to see them continued to be developed so we would like to protect them as they are and fly above them vacation homes which are built in many cases by some very wealthy individuals do produce a lot of tax revenue unfortunately for the county and so those goals are not always shared with local developers but our shared through certain coalition’s like Florida forever and finally the legislative initiatives we talk a lot about environmental initiatives ndaa every year look at the National Defense Authorization Act it’s very large but there’s a few sections that will stand out to your community for us this year it was section 358 wind energy development which might be incompatible placed a lot of legislative burden on us in terms of complying with certain provisions of that we’re still trying to understand much of what that means in terms of time and effort but it means more than we were doing before and that usually is on the part of our mission components and then we support them with analysis the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act potentially a great thing for the economy but it also spurred development in areas that were potentially quiescent for a while nothing much going on and suddenly there’s an interest it funded our construction as well as department

of energy grants loans to for development that may or may not be compatible with us but as opposed to long-term analysis we had very short term analysis on that so we had to decide whether or not it impacted us and we often had a very limited amount of time to do so and we certainly didn’t have all of the resources that we needed so that was that was a change as of this past year our dates back to 2009 but many of the timelines in there in the legislation we were we really weren’t paying too much attention to and some of those timelines are coming to a close so developers are very much under pressure to get those funds and show certain milestones and so they may not work then we hope they will but they are not always as willing to talk to us and negotiate because there’s money at stake so the dollar is driving many of these issues so here’s an eye chart I can almost be Tami’s chart of the cno’s org chart but I won’t try to explain all this but the red yellow green just indicate different areas of our instructions that we’re tracking across the entire scope of CN i sees installations so but we didn’t again look at and i’ll say we didn’t look at europe we didn’t look at Asia but we did look at all of our US installations and we wanted to see how well we were do with certain encroachment factors and you’ll see that a lot of that is yellow we can’t really rate it we have some issues but we’re not doing exceptional but where the red stands out or areas where we’re not really doing terribly well and that doesn’t mean that we don’t have good people or we’re not doing great efforts but we have new challenges in some of these regions I won’t throw the Naval District Washington people or the Northwest people under the bus too much but simply put they had some new challenges and not enough resources to really address to answer the mail we had limited staff and we highlight that as we had only one full-time community planes in the days on officer on board we had studies that were in some cases out of date or we had not worked well with local communities to establish compatible guidelines that we would hope to see them adopt into law so we just simply weren’t there we were very silent on the issue of community involvement and that created other problems if you don’t have anybody you can’t manage studies you can’t do further research you can’t interact and share information long/short we’ve again continue to grow the community plans and liaison officer program we are in the process of hiring two additional see plos and we have funded to others and we hope to see many of those Reds turn at least in two yellows if not greens but it takes time to develop those relationships and share that information and as you know many EIS is and we share in those EIS is we share information they’ll go on for years we have several in the Northwest a lot of that information will result in recommendations to further improve certain interaction that’s done through people and the money available to do that is limited we share a lot of the information that you are also looking at we share a lot of those interests the immigrants other EIS type information it feeds directly into our encouragement management plans so again the interaction between your staff and your codes and community plans and liaison officers is critical to both of our jobs which is ensuring the mission is compatible ensuring that we can continue the viability of installations I was always asked you know how much money do we spend and where do we spend it we don’t break it out in ways that we’ve been asked to so everyone wants to know the famous question is you know how much money did you spend last year or how much will you spend next year on coffee when you’re thinking about solving my problem we have about 50 million dollars in our budget this year but the interesting point to mention is that again we’re not a program of record at CN IC we don’t have a fundamental one resource sponsor but we draw from various resource sponsors in the Navy and then directly from OSD actually a lot of encroachment money that we execute with nav fact comes from the DoD roughy program so it all goes to encroachment and encroachment partnering but it does not necessarily get tallied against how much money was spent against airborne noise or competition for space we like to think a lot of the money spent has multiple benefits and so in this sense we had a hard time breaking this chart up but we would say that most of our money spent this year is spent on

CP lows and their efforts in turn on encroachment partnering and it deals a lot with competition for space and that shouldn’t be a surprise some again incompatible uses urban development noise around our air stations and a big one really if we could look at it as frequency spectrum we’re being asked a lot about radar issues where the installations command we don’t really do a whole lot with that but we certainly have a lot of interests from our air stations whether it’s proper to split it out that way I put a lot a big squiggly line in front of every one of those and said Admiral Sir we don’t and we have never broken out our information in that way if we don’t have those funding codes but the truth here is that we’re not spending a lot of money on water quality or air quality issues for encroachment we certainly see that money spent by the environmental foe we’re not spending it within our program so you see a bunch of blanks in there we’re really not spending our money on transportation issues per se not really a hot item of the moment so those hot items set squeaky wheels if you will tend to get the dollars takeaways for this when we’re managing things we don’t have years anymore we have months so we don’t have the long decade wide growth that you see with an endangered species of concern for instance we have projects that are going to be built next to our installations very very quickly and that may not have many permitting permitting requirements we’re often in rural areas in the county then the county doesn’t have a zoning code doesn’t have any formal review authority actually at all and so many of these if they’re small homes if they’re small incompatible developments we may not be aware of them unless we’re sharing information we’re literally out there asking people in the community encroaching measurement is a team effort so I stress it not just for our operational folks but also for our installations folks it seems we talk more and more with our operators at the fleet level also in the testing and evaluation community and we don’t tend to spend enough time sharing coffee with the environmental people to understand their studies that are underway and what they’re finding and what their key problems are which may be our key problems whom they’ve talked with regionally locally tribally we don’t we don’t often know that information so when I get a report back and Tammy says have you reviewed this that’s how I Tammy I haven’t seen it we’re not on that task or we just don’t get a copy of that and she’ll say well you need to look at it it’s kind of small and I need and I need your comments back by Tuesday it’s Monday Tammy but anyway we we need to share a lot of that information better than we’re doing for our operators we haven’t done enough to document their mission impacts so it’s not enough anymore we’ve been slapped on the hand it’s not enough to say it bothers us or talking adjectives we have to do more measurement environmental folks have measured for a while our operators have measured their effectiveness and their training but there haven’t really measured the impacts between the two so how does a decrease or how does this environmental pressure how does this encroachment pressure potentially decrease your mission impact or how has it the record keeping is spotty so that that again has to improve and we’re not doing the sustained engagement that we need to be in many cases again I say through CP ellos it can be through a lot of different eyes and ears and voices in the community but our C pillows we talk to them to the the operational forces is the soft power they are the forward observers in the way many of our operators would talk but they are also simply put the eyes and ears environmental folks are out there in the community just as frequently if not more so and that information that you collect shared with others who are working similar problems will help achieve a lot of these goals beyond the fence line and again some of the challenges multiple resource pond sirs overlapping requirements and limited funds we can leverage a lot of those limited funds because we’re working on similar studies so we need to be able to take a lot of the information and summarize it succinctly as a point I got a hundred and sixty-eight page encroachment action plan for the Northwest training ranges complex and that encroachment action plan had I think three pages of executive recommendations when I pass something up to our front office I’m allowed to put something in 12 point font and I get one page and it’s all in bullets so I need to find out how to take that information and make it digestible up to the front office and usually I get it back scanned with the Admirals comments and he writes

questions on it but they usually end up as why or how so he is interested he does see it and we need to be able to figure out how to take a lot of that information and bring it to the right people quickly we can do that at sea ice see we get a lot of that information the most important thing that when you bring these large reports back to us a point out what do we need to look at what is what’s your executive finding on there I do find that in a lot of what we receive from from the region’s from the lower echelon zaz as Tammy pointed out you may think we have a lot of time to go through a lot of these documents we don’t the front office has less please help us understand the issues of greatest concern and see where they overlap so we can take that and that’s my brief presentation ok so real quickly you’re going to talk about the 50-90 just because I know there was a lot of people who commented on it the remember the actual number of comments that we received on the natural side this is just a okay I got you looking for the summary of comments it’s two slides that one no no keep going back up one more so the bottom line is that there are 3500 comments received on the document the document comment to receive from many commands we’re still in the process of reviewing and addressing the comments on the Natural Resources side the folks at headquarters CN i c’n a faq are working to fix the culture resources chapter and on the natural resources side we’re working within 45 to fix the I’m sorry the cultural resource chapter 9 45 on the natural resource chapter I just wanted to quickly because I know we’re running out of time show you the schedule the bottom line is that we have to have our chapters dawn by sep tember 16th and that means they have to be pretty with a bow on them and then they go through the chop chain for a very long time this final document review they’re sending it up the chain for two weeks to the secretariat level and other back out for review but it won’t go to the field level that is just a op nav secretariat review and then once that done once that is done they’ll submit it to dns which is the department that are experts in creating instructions and then then the whole process is expected to be done in july of 12 but if you have issues or questions about something that you read in the 50 90 and you think it’s going to be in the next 50 90 i would certainly ask about it because it is going to be our guidance document for a long time and i wouldn’t after all the work that’s gone into fix this 5090 i wouldn’t expect it to change anytime soon that’s for sure so do you want to say anything else about they’re doing no I think that covers it I will say real quickly before I forget because my brain is operating on empty at this point that if you have not received an email from me about a natural resources issue in the neck let pass like two weeks then you probably need to send me an email so i can add you to my distribution list and hillary hillary and cooperation with Gail and bill and I and Cheryl we put out what’s called the cultural resources circulator and that document and let me just note that because the session is being recorded for you YouTube broadcast it will occur this evening no it’s seriously it’s important to talk to the microphone so we can actually get your question on the tape you got a question haha too quick that’s a good way to make sure you have questions I gotta cut Tammy oh um how long have you been working there long enough for the commander with respect to I know the focus of the conservation is on wildlife habitat primarily but obviously archaeological sites and other historic properties could be preserved through those actions has there been any

discussion of that contemplation of that let’s see if I have this thing on at present no but that is simply because the rep you program exists for it has very specific authorities under its mandate under law of what it can do for environmental reasons now that said I I don’t know that it necessarily excludes cultural assets of that realm it’s a great question and I can talk with OSD about it well a cub has dealt with it a little bit I know at least one example in Virginia where the Army’s a cub program dealt with it and I used to work with a Land Trust in North Carolina that was really active with the Fort Bragg encouragement reduction and we entertained the idea a little bit there are some benefits potentially in may be reducing the pressure on the installation to preserve certain types of archaeological sites or properties if better examples exist off post or off base that could be preserved through one of these encroachment programs and then you might also attract other partners potential partners who are interested not only in wildlife conservation but I historic preservation you know we often do it when there is an overlapping of both environmental and archeological so we’re not saying we would exclude that I can point to an example in Southeast that we’re putting in for a fy12 repa submission which is s Gravano point which is just off the Choctaw olf right at the southern tip of Santa Rosa County that actually has known Native American habitat or Native American sites as well as endangered species habitat so it affects us because it’s again right at the edge of the Air Station but it has been already surveyed for some cultural assets related to original inhabitant I think there are some some shell middens and some other things so it hasn’t been fully explored but it’s definitely of interest to some of the Florida partners we’ve approached okay thank you just real quick before I forget that because we’ve run out of time this is our new website and no we don’t manage Yellowstone but that would be cool right and so the new website this is where you’ll find the cultural resources metrics for review but it is hosted by EMS web so we’re trying to link the two and we’re trying to put other links on here it’ll probably be out in half force maybe in the fall but it is our new website and we’re trying to make it better faster place the overall goal for the website is to make a an area where you can manage your programs better and have the information there so that we can we can get information from me but at the same time we can also we can see what you’re doing so you are using this to manage your program and it’s a place for you to have your data and also answer data calls without it being completely painful and then the other little pitch I’m going to make for websites is the way of CN IC is the CN IC gateway if you do not know about the CN IC gateway it does have a lot of really cool information about your region and installations and you should probably get an account if you need to get an account you can contact me that this is the way i’m commander roach he referred to it the this is Admiral Vitale’s vision and this is the way that we are going in CN IC he bases everything off dashboards and metrics and units of measure and it is a very valuable tool I mean we have facts and figures for all CN IC you can do it regionally you can do it by your basis so it is a helpful tool so I’m sorry Michelle I didn’t mean to cut you off go ahead that just answered part of my question so that was helpful thank you um my question I sent it you had asked for questions from the regions and from the installations and I sent in a few so I just wanted to try to get one in quickly sorry um must be hard no it’s not a tough one we’ve talked about the newsletter and the websites but I wanted to know now that we have a full staff at headquarters and a faq and CN IC what are some of the ways that you’re going to try to facilitate communication better or more fully throughout the the regions and the installation so that we can get find out more about what you all are working on up there in Washington and so if we have ideas about some things that we think are emergent issues we can get them up to you to see if you can work on them on our behalf so you’re talking cultural resources right now cultural resources is what I’m Ackman I’ll just say that I think then communication on the cultural resources side of the house all the way

up 1046 and Commander George has been very gracious with this time and I I think that I would just simply say we have an open-door policy if you have an issue and you need to talk to us then absolutely and we communicate on a daily hourly minute Lee basis so I think communication at our level is very good on the cultural resources side but if there’s an issue that you need to talk about I mean you can certainly send it up both chains and we can talk about it and get back to you I certainly hope that everyone in this room feels welcome to contact us if they have an issue they look well I was going to say for for my take on that you know walk over to the desk and and start talking up before word about it you know I come over to Tammy says sometimes with a cookie yeah I have to kind of do a little bribe there for some time but we’re all pretty busy but nonetheless with all the virtual working we’re doing sometimes we we don’t have that interaction that we otherwise could I would redouble your efforts with that in mind and don’t wait for the formal infrastructure we have a great number of ad hoc teams that are happening on many of our installations simply because they have developed for one project and they have then carried on as sort of informal but living exchanges of information so i would encourage that and michelle i would say into everyone i would say that i’m i’m hopeful that you’re going to feel a lot more engaged and and have access to more information in the course of the next year the the communicator is it’s a circulator that what is called communicator yes I was right okay good the newsletter has is growing Hillary’s doing a great job of increasing the amount of information and that we hope soon that that will be a two more of a two-way communication so we’ll see more news and issues from from installations and regions so I think that’s going to grow in terms of a tool also the the naf Hank headquarters website the portal Cultural Resources site has more and more information all the time and we’re looking to grow that we also talked on sunday and i think we’re probably going to be able to pursue the idea soon of a i don’t know how often it’s going to be there’s still some logistics to sort out but a a regular conference call with folks it won’t be in a requirement it’ll be an opportunity to talk about what is happening and obviously to have some sort of mediated exchange of information in real time about about how things are going and and there still honestly i will just say that i think that the cultural resources metrics are going to be an occasion for a lot of communication between headquarters and and regions and installations as soon as it rolls out I think one last thing is i think our meeting on sunday was very valuable and there’s a lot of things we’re taking from that meeting to act upon and i think that’ll be helpful as well as far as installation communication though i will put out a little plug that if anybody in the room is a CPL oh and they don’t know who their natural and cultural resources manager r is r then please go meet that person when you get home and get a tour of your installation from them because they know a lot about your base and you can learn a lot from them and if the natural resources and cultural resources people don’t know their CPL oh then go find them and find out what they do and give them a tour of your basis based installations regions so that we can build that communication and networking because i think we really do have a lot to offer one another and i bet we can probably reduce some of the additional work if we actually communicate it a little bit better anyone else have any questions oh it’s alec you can’t escape the cultural resources yat numbered right well as someone new to the Navy I think it’s important to let you know that really since i arrived in january i’ve i’ve been able to hear and carry on the message that we’re here to support the mission and something that’s also become very clear is that we have more historic resources than we need to fulfill the mission yet so the other piece that’s been conveyed is we need to reduce footprint of course when you have NHL’s that’s not as easy as maybe some other installations but I’m trying to find out after listening to today’s presentation who sets the guidance for partnerships particularly for partners that may not be federal or military for for taking over a stewardship of facilities inside the perimeter because of security so how do I find out or is there do we need to change that or

consider alternative ways to to meet that footprint reduction and also meet the cultural resources mission so that we can focus our dollars and our cultural resource efforts on facilities that are needed it’s a great quick it’s a great question and I don’t really have a very complete answer I’m afraid but i think the place to start would be your real estate asset management folks to talk about the you know essentially the legal mechanism i do believe all i cannot cite off top my head i do believe that we have expanded authority to partner with non navy organizations and entities to to do that kind of work i think but it obviously the specifics would would matter a lot in terms of exactly what the requirements were I can actually come in a little bit I n44 that that I sit in and see and I see is asset management and we actually work with n use leases and that falls under us so any ously cesare one way that we can very attractively look at the reuse of Navy property it’s not necessarily something that we have done an enormous amount of but we frequently see that in terms of museum space for instance for historical buildings if you’ve been to Ford Island you’ve been in a few of these structures she works with so that is not uncommon though at some of our other installations usually everybody wants to have something new from scratch on the other hand it doesn’t preclude the local bank branch or other thing the benefit Navy missions from being in historic structures i would i would talk with bob mian and i can get you that information if you need it he is the eol manager at CN IC and he can give you more information I have two questions one I have a site that’s eligible that is eroding out into the bay it is also undermining several large oak trees and it is utilized as a rec area is there any way to pool money outdoor recreation area recreation NWR site anyway to pull the money to shore up and stop the erosion process and is there a mechanism to put in to request funding for such a project if that was a tough question last year or the last pump cycle that we had about whose responsibility is it to pay for the erosion issue and i will say that when it came down to brass tacks it was facilities as a facilities cost but if you’re having a compliance issue it kind of comes over to cultural resources so in the end it kind of goes to the same program sponsor so i think we probably need to talk a little bit more about it on a site site dependent basis but we it’s definitely something we need to discuss bill notice anything well i think that i think that’s right and again not knowing anything about the specific situation i can tell you that i’ve worked on I’ve done the cultural resources review on projects where various kinds of shore stabilization you know erosion stabilization projects have gone on is this in water you didn’t just be an in water part of it part of it is in water yeah so yeah it’ll be a it’ll be a multi-faceted effort to make that happen but I have seen it happen you know especially when especially and this may be that the critical question when the erosion as a defined mission impact I mean compliance issues when you’re talking about natural forces like that are a little harder to tie to a you know a Navy action it’s not to say that Saints irrelevant but it’s not quite the same as if we are going out and spending money to do something and affecting resources so that may be part of the challenge to define how this how this affects the mission at that installation but you’ll definitely have natural resources and I would assume 40 for permitting issues related to to how to make that happen we can talk about it when you get back and figure out who the right people are to have that conversation and your other questions other question is the database that you’re talking about earlier are there any plans to take historic maps and geo-referenced them to be used in the GIS database system right now of lorem use from neff at headquarters is working diligently on trying to integrate the

environmental geospatial information with our the nav fact systems for how they manage geospatial information and we’re trying to pull that in into our new website I think her project is due to be done in a couple months all right supposed to be done in the fall and I think once that once we get there in the fall that we’ll have more information on the way ahead so if I think if you give it a couple months I think we’ll get a little bit better but right now we have a lot of little kinks to work out I will say my general impression is a GIS management and data management associated with your your program is your region by region installation by installation the pendant situation each region seem to do it a little bit differently and which is a bit frustrating but but that’s the case right now so hopefully we’ll have a little bit more more information in the fall it is a by the way Kerry it’s a great idea and and you know you’ll I think in time as Tammy said you’ll find ways to make that happen that’s that’ll be very valuable thank you no nuts no but it’ll help define the process on how to get it done yeah you’re right yeah it could be yep mm-hmm the problem is that pom 14 closes tomorrow don’t let you have access to a computer come out sure go ahead rub I’m just curious why the expectations of n romps to be up to date quote-unquote or what I might call for lack of a better term kind of rigid when in essence when they’re completed they’re already a dated document things change so fast that it’s difficult to capture everything in a quote-unquote up-to-date man or some of them take up to ten years one of them I’ve got now that I inherited four months ago as soon as they’re done they’re dated it in the same context the implementation tables are very dynamic and living we’re trying to implement the things that we say in the interrupts but some of the perspective on the bases and the acreage of habitats and things like that may change with a fire overnight and whatnot and and then we do revisions to them as well and so I just struggle to see the importance of having them to be completely up to date when it’s difficult to balance all the comments the the contract and you know going out of scope when you come back with comments and it gets late and all that it’s just a very difficult thing to accomplish them in in a very linear form and so having that expectation makes it that much more difficult so quickly answer your question because I could talk about this for a long time the the expectation is that the first round of integrated natural resource management plans have been done and unfortunately when that first round was done we did those documents thinking that there would be five year visions because that’s the way at the time OSD and they be interpreted the psyche set the expectation now is that those documents are living documents that are being updated constantly and it was a big push to update them annually revisions are only going to be required if if there’s some sort of major change on your installation big huge changes of mission you have new endangered speed it’s something that requires a big change other than that the requirement is to review as to operation in effect every five years with your with your stakeholder model service Noah and the state and to gain mutual agreement at that time so you should be updating this document kind of as a process and then at that five-year mark you can get new signatures but you don’t have to redo the whole thing if you don’t need to so the expectation I think in your mind is that we’re doing these big documents every couple years and that’s not really I the expectation that said I don’t think there is been a clear defined process on how to update them very well annually and I I think that’s an installation and region independent issue how would they choose to do that is up to them but until the bottom line is until our sims and geo readiness centers works a little bit better I think we’re always going to be in a situation where it’s going to be installation and region dependent on how they wanted how they want to manage that process themselves did that answer your question yeah I can talk to you about that one talk more than I do have integrated natural resource management plan guidelines up here if anybody’s interested and then I do also brought some climate change information from the Forest Service they seem to be leading the way and how they’re managing climate change so I have two discs up here and then i bought my copy of scanning the conservation horizon which is a climate change book if anybody wants to look at it does anybody have any questions okay why thank you oh I’m sorry go ahead Jim well you know I was wait till the last minute and drag it out we we had a very

good presentation yesterday uh I Marie Cottrell on a regionalization of curation facility for the Marine Corps I think it’s a good model for us to start thinking about especially for California now fact Southwest having a major number or percentage of the collections for the entire Navy in that area and it’s something that’s been flagged as a as a concerned all the way up to headquarters but coming out in the new 5091 d there was a recent new requirement for cultural resources to address and curate paleontological collections that’s now a new Tasker for CR am i incorrect on that not quite no not quite and I probably should have talked about that but I’m afraid palios getting more air time overall Navy these days and it really needs the no it’s not it’s not a mandate in 1592 collect and manage paleo it’s more a matter of recognizing the fact that paleontological resources are a component of the Navy’s responsibility as a federal land owner and cultural resources folks and nature natural resources folks are the logical members of the Navy community to be to help address the character of the challenge so no it’s not it not intended to be a requirement to start curating it’s more a matter of looking at areas of potential sensitivities so one of the things in the 50 90 that’s being drafted is that when you do an archaeological survey or a natural resources survey that you that they’re a part of the consideration would would look at the geologic situation to see whether there are areas of probability shouldn’t really go beyond that at this point at least not the way I’m understanding the expectation it’s just to provide a sensitive awareness so so that if you know major grading or something is happening in area where there’s a recognized potential that that we’re considering that in the process we there is we are working on I can’t say more than the fact that we’re working on it we are working on the idea of trying to provide some some sort of headquarters project that would provide a I mean for lack of a better term right now i’ll call it a paleo context document that would be available to everybody as you know a frame of reference so that you wouldn’t be starting from zero on this it’s not meant to be a new management responsibility it’s meant to be to leverage the knowledge and the skill we have to to find a way to increase awareness about this so that it doesn’t become a problem I think from my perspective it’s an awareness issue to the to the point where i’m hoping that on areas where it has a risk of being an issue that the natural resources manager and the cultural resources manager have had you know have duked it out and they figured out who’s who’s the first on scene and just kind of identified a process for dealing with it because when they found that the mammoth tooth on china like you know like everybody was like mom and so now we’re kind of like well who owns it and the Natural Resources people are pointing at the cultural resource people the culture research people are pointing to the Natural Resources people and the Natural Resources people are putting arrowheads everywhere so you know just in case no I’m kidding but the issue is that you know we really don’t know we don’t have a clearer idea of who owns it and I think it just we needed to find that better all right thanks thanks for the clarification that kind of calms my nerves a little anyone else well thank you very much for your time i’m sorry went over a little bit and if you have any questions please feel free to come up thanks yeah thanks everybody you