AT HOME WITH JIM AND JOY – 2015-12-24

♪ [APPLAUSE] Joy: WELCOME! WELCOME TO “AT HOME WITH JIM AND JOY” AND WE ARE SO DELIGHTED THAT YOU HAVE JOINED US THIS EVENING YES, IT’S CHRISTMAS EVE AND THAT’S SO EXCITING FOR SOME PEOPLE, THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING TIME OF THE YEAR! SOME PEOPLE LOVE CHRISTMAS AND SOME PEOPLE, MAYBE IT’S A DIFFICULT TIME AND MAYBE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE HAVING A CHRISTMAS WITHOUT A LOVED ONE MAYBE YOU HAVE HAD A DIFFICULT YEAR BUT WE ALL, NO MATTER WHAT, WE ALL HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR! AND YOU ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE FAMILY SEND US AN EMAIL, JIM AND JOY, AT EWTN, SEND IT TO ewtn.com HON, YOU ARE IN YOUR RED I’M IN MY GREEN AND WE’RE KIND OF LOOKING CHRISTMASSY AND IN THE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT! A LOT HAS GOTTEN DONE AND ANOTHER CHRISTMAS WE’RE STILL HERE AND WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR Jim: AND WE’RE COMING OUT OF THE SEASON OF ADVENT, RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF CHRISTMAS AND WE MAY SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS AT SOME POINT AND JOY TO THE WORLD! Joy: I LOVE THAT SONG Jim: I WONDER WHY? IT’S A PLAY ON WORDS LET EVERY HEART PREPARE HIM ROOM, AND HEAVEN AND NATURE SING AND HEAVEN AND NATURE SING IT IS SO, JUST OUR FAITH THAT WE WORSHIP EMMANUEL THAT GOD, GOD DESIRES US HE COMES TO US AND I LOVE THE BIBLE PASSAGE, WE ARE THE APPLE OF JESUS EYE THAT WE CAN BE THE APPLE OF HIS EYE AND IT’S JUST, LIKE THE WHOLE WORLD IN OUR OWN LIVES AND EVEN THE NONBELIEVING WORLD, IT’S LIKE A HUSH A HUSH OVER OUR COUNTRY AND THE HUSH OVER THE EARTH THAT WE SHOULD BLUSH THAT GOD WOULD COME AND DEIGN TO LIVE AMONG US AND COME TO KNOW HIM THROUGHOUT ALL ETERNITY FOR THE POSSIBILITY A TYKE THE ETERNAL WORD, COME AND SHARE IT WITH OUR FAMILY, OUR COMMUNITY Joy: NOW, IN THIS YEAR OF DIVINE MERCY, YOU MAY NOT HAVE GONE TO CHURCH IN A LONG TIME THE DOORS ARE WIDE OPEN COME AND BEHOLD JESUS IT’S NEVER TOO LATE YOU MAY SAY, I’VE NEVER BEEN TO CHURCH IN 20 YEARS, 40 YEARS YOU KNOW, WE’LL HEAR GREAT STORIES FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE, MAYBE THEY LEFT THE CHURCH, LOST THEIR WAY BUT JESUS FOUND THEM BECAUSE HE’S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR US HE’S THE GOD FULL OF EXTRAVAGANT MERCY NOT JUST A LITTLE MERCY HE’S EXTRAVAGANT WITH IT Jim: AND YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM SOME OF THE FRIENDS AND STAFF RIGHT HERE AT EWTN YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO MISS THIS TIME THEY ARE JUST VERY, VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND RIGHT BACK, PLEASE, DON’T GO AWAY [APPLAUSE] ♪ ♪ [APPLAUSE] Joy: WELCOME BACK! WELL, TODAY, WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL CHRISTMAS SHOW FOR YOU WE’RE BRINGING TO YOU SOME OF THE BEST OF THE BEST AS OUR PRODUCER TITLED IT BECAUSE SHE’S ONE OF OUR GREAT GUESTS! TODAY, WE HAVE SOME NEW BELOVED FRIENDS OF OURS, LEN AND LORNA MARINO AND THEY HAVE COME FROM AFAR LEN IS THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF CREATIVE SERVICES AND LORNA IS WITH SOCIAL MEDIA FOR EWTN RC WHICH WE JUST LOVE LEN AND LORNA ARE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE AND WE WANT YOU TO GET TO KNOW THEM THEY BOTH ARE BEHIND THE SCENES DOING FUN THINGS TO MAKE THIS NETWORK TAKE OFF, TO BE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GOD WANTS IT TO BE

THEY ARE BRINGING ALL OF THEIR TREASURES AND TALENTS FOR GOD’S GLORY SO, OUR NEW FRIENDS, LEN AND LORNA, WELCOME TO “AT HOME WITH JIM AND JOY” GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS! WELL, LEN, WHY DON’T YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR JOURNEY, HOW YOU GOT HERE, WHO YOU WERE AND WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND THEN, SWEET LORNA WILL TELL US Guest: WELL, I GOT HERE, I WAS TOSSED FROM A MOTORCYCLE I’VE ALWAYS BEEN A CATHOLIC AND I’VE ALWAYS GONE TO MASS AND NEVER REALLY STRAYED FROM THE FAITH BUT GIVEN ATE LITTLE REST NOW AND THEN NOW, WE WERE LIVING IN LOS ANGELES AND I WAS DOING A LOT OF STUFF I HAD A GOOD BUSINESS AND MY GOAL WAS TO REALLY KEEP THE BUSINESS GROWING AND GROWING I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, GOD WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, LEN, I’VE GIVEN YOU ALL OF THESE GIFTS AND YOU REALLY AREN’T DO IT FOR MY GLORY BUT THINK YOU ARE GOING TO START BUT I HAD A NEAR FATAL MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT ON MULL HOLLAND DRIVE IN LOS ANGELES AND I WOUND UP IN THE HOSPITAL I WOUND UP IN THE TRAUMA CENTER I BROKE ALL MY RIBS, MY TEETH WERE KNOCKED OUT AND I HAD FULL BODY ARMOR ON AND FULL FACE HELMET I WAS JUST IN PIECES >> YOU CRASHED? >> I CRASHED AND NOBODY ELSE HIT ME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT I JUST CRASHED AND THAT REALLY BEGAN A JOURNEY FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS SO BEATEN UP, I COULDN’T GO TO THE OFFICE, I REALLY COULDN’T DO ANYTHING WE WERE SO FORTUNATE THAT OUR PARISH WAS LITERALLY TWO BLOCKS FROM OUR HOUSE WE LIVED IN HANCOCK PARK AT THE TIME AND WE COULD JUST WALK THAT WAS REALLY MY OUTING FOR THE DAY I WOULD GO OUT AND I WOULD WALK TO MASS AND THAT WAS A BIG DEAL FOR ME AND THAT WAS ALL I COULD DO AND I BEGAN TO REALLY GET TO KNOW MY FAITH ON A MUCH DEEPER BASIS BUT GOD WAS NOT, HE SAID, MAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU NEED TO BE PUSHED A LITTLE MORE AND I WENT FOR MY ANNUAL PHYSICAL AND MY DOCTOR SAID, HEY, YOUR PSA IS ELEVATED SO I WENT AND I FOUND OUT I HAD THE PROSTATE CANCER GOD IN HIS MERCY, YOU KNOW, HE GIVES ME A NUDGE FORTUNATELY, THE CANCER WAS CAUGHT EARLY NO SIDE EFFECTS I GOT THE MESSAGE AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS, I COULDN’T DO ANYTHING AS MY STRENGTH GOT BETTER, WE WOULD WALK DOWN TO VINE STREET, MONASTERY OF THE ANGELS, RIGHT UNDER THE HOLLYWOOD SIGN AND THERE, SAY THE ROSARY AND ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK IN OUR PARISH, I SAT BEFORE THE BLESSED SACRAMENT AND YOU KNOW, THEN EVENTUALLY, WE LEFT LOS ANGELES AND I MOVED TO DENVER, AND THE AUXILLARY BISHOP OF DENVER AT THE TIME HE AND I BECAME AND EVERYDAY I CAME HOME FROM THE OFFICE AND I SAID, WHAT’S THIS I SAID, I’M THINKING, EWTN, AND HE SAID, I’M HAVING LUNCH WITH BISHOP WARSAW DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY SOMETHING AND I SENT HIM A PER EXPECT US ON THE COMPANY, ET CETERA AND THE REST IS HISTORY AND SAID, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, YOU NEED TO DOUBLE YOUR DONATION TO BISHOP AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT, 8 MONTHS AGO, I WAS A CONTRACTOR AND I WAS CONSULTING HERE AND EIGHT MONTHS AGO, I STARTED AND DOUG BROUGHT ME ON FULLTIME I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I WAS BLESSED WITH A STAFF AND I CAME INTO A STAFF THAT IS SO TALENTED AND SO DEDICATED THAT WE TOGETHER HAVE DONE WONDERFUL THINGS YOU KNOW, I’M THE LUCKY ONE I CAME HERE AND I’VE GOT A TALENTED AND GIFTED, DEDICATED STAFF Jim: YOU HAVE LORNA, YOU ARE GIFTED NOW, TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF Guest: WELL, EVERYTHING HE SAID IS TRUE IT WAS A CHALLENGING TIME AND ON MY END, DURING THAT TIME, MY DAD WAS DYING OF CANCER SO, IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT, SPIRITUAL TIME FOR ME AND I GREW UP IN BOSTON FROM A CATHOLIC

WORKING CLASS FAMILY AND I’VE ALWAYS BEEN THE HAPPY CATHOLIC I’M NOT SOMEONE THAT EVER LEFT MY FAITH OR WAS UNHAPPY WITH BEING A CATHOLIC I ALWAYS LOVED THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND ESPECIALLY, LIKE THE MYSTICAL PART OF THE FAITH, THE SAINTS AND ALL OF THAT, I ALWAYS LOVED ALL OF THAT AND I MIGHT NOT HAVE VEERED OFF FROM THE RELIGION, BUT I DEFINITELY VEERED OFF AS A YOUNG ADULT DIDN’T GO TO MASS, PARTYING AND TAKING THAT ROUTE AND I CAME BACK IN THROUGH DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEN LEN AND I MET, GOT MARRIED AND ONE OF OUR FIRST DATES, WE WENT TO THE EASTER VIGIL TOGETHER AND IT WAS IN THE 1980 SO, I THINK IT WAS CATHOLIC, YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE I WAS LOOKING FOR A ROCK STAR THAT WAS CATHOLIC LEN WAS CARRYING A BRIEFCASE, HE WAS NOT THE ROCK STAR I WAS LOOKING FOR HE DIDN’T LOOK LIKE A ROCK STAR BUT HE WAS A NICE GUY AND HE ASKED ME WHAT I WAS DOING ON THIS PARTICULAR SATURDAY NIGHT AND I SAID, I’M GOING TO THE EASTER VIGIL I HAD A PUNK HAIR CUT AND HE SAID, I’LL GO WITH YOU AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING IT WAS SO GREAT TO MEET A CATHOLIC YOUNG MAN AND WE GOT MARRIED OUR FATHER LIFE HAS TAKEN US ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, HE HAD HIS MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT AND THAT YEAR WAS PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING AND LIKE MOST PEOPLE OR A LOT OF PEOPLE, GOD HAD A HIGHER PURPOSE FOR THAT AND YOU KNOW, HE MADE ALL THINGS NEW AND HIS DESIRES BECOME OUR DESIRES WHO KNEW THAT WE WOULD BE IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA AND HAPPY? HAPPY! Joy: AND IT’S ALWAYS OUR GOOD GOD BRINGING THE GREATER GOOD OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS GOD DIDN’T CAUSE THE MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT IT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND GOD BROUGHT A GREATER GOOD OUT OF IT EVEN WITH THE PROSTATE CANCER DIAGNOSIS WHAT IF THAT WOULD HAVE GONE UNCHECKED THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EVEN WORSE HERE YOU ARE HOW MANY YEARS ARE YOU GUYS MARRIED >> 32 WE JUST CELEBRATED 32 YEARS >> AND HAVE YOU A DAUGHTER 30-YEARS-OLD >> YEAH, ALABAMA WE DO LIKE ALABAMA WE DIDN’T THINK WE WOULD I DON’T KNOW I DON’T KNOW WHAT WE THOUGHT IF YOU TOLD US 10 YEARS AGO, WE WOULD BE LIVING IN ALABAMA WE WOULD HAVE SAID, WHY WHAT? Guest: AND WE LIVED IN THE SUBURBS AND IT’S GREAT WE LOVE IT >> AND YOU ARE SERVING AS VICE-PRESIDENT OF CREATIVE SERVICES, WHAT’S THAT MEAN AND WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE TO MAKE THIS GREAT TEAM EVEN STRONGER? >> WELL, WHAT WE DO, YOU SAW IT AT THE BEGINNING WITH JIM AND JOY SPINNING CREATIVE SERVICES, PART OF WHAT WE DO WE DO OUR PROMOTIONS, PROMOTING ASPECTS OF THE NET WITH WORK, PROMOTING SHOWS AND IF YOU GET A FLYER IN THE MAIL, OUR DEPARTMENT DOES THAT AND BASICALLY, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PACKAGING AND WRAPPING OF THE NETWORK WE JUST FINISHED A REFLESH AND PEOPLE HAVE BEGUN SEEING THE NEW PROMOS OUT THERE WITH SOME OF THE LOOK OBIT AND WE’RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BRAND, THE BRAND OF EWTN AND THE MISSION CREATING AND BRINGING ARE FORTH THAT MISSION CREATIVELY Joy: AND WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT’S READY THAT YOU HAVE CREATED AND BEAUTIFUL LORNA IS IN IT WE WANT OUR VIEWERS AT HOME, WE WANT YOU TO SEE ALL OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT HERE AT EWTN >> LAST EVENING, I WATCHED A SHOW ON YOUR NETWORK THAT CHANGED MY LIFE ONE OF THE GUESTS WAS A WOMAN WHO SPOKE ABOUT HER PAST SHE HAD TWO ABORTIONS WATCHING THE SEGMENT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME I HAVE BEEN LIVING WITH SHAME AND GUILT FOR OVER 30 YEARS, HAVING HAD 2 ABORTIONS FOR MYSELF MY BACKGROUND WAS SIMILAR TO THE WOMAN ON THE SHOW, GROWING UP IN THE 1960’S AND THE 1970’S REBELLIOUS AND USING DRUGS AND PROMISCUOUS AND GETTING FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM OUR LORD I WENT BACK TO THE CHURCH AND SPOKE TO A PRIEST I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE FORE GIVEN BECAUSE I WAS SUCH A BAD PERSON I’LL NEVER FORGET SITTING IN THE DOCTOR’S RECEPTION ROOM WAITING TO GO IN FOR MY SECOND ABORTION AND HEARING A VOICE IN MY HEAD TELLING ME TO GET UP AND LEAVE I FELT PARALYZED SITTING THERE

I KNOW NOW IT WAS OUR LORD SPEAKING TO ME THERE ARE NO WORDS THAT I CAN USE TO DESCRIBE THE EMOTION I FELT WATCHING THAT PROGRAM I BELIEVE JESUS FORGAVE ME AND I MUST FORGIVE MYSELF AND I WANT TO PASS ON MY THANKS FOR IT WAS TRULY LIFE-CHANGING Joy: WELCOME BACK TELL US ABOUT THAT VIDEO Guest: THIS CAMPAIGN WAS DONE AS A FUND TO APPEAL AND LORNA PLAYED THE PART OF A WOMAN THAT WROTE INTO US ACTUALLY WROTE IN AND THESE ARE NOT MADE UP THESE ARE ACTUALLY FROM HER LETTER TO US AND SHE WROTE THE LETTER AND WE GET A LOT OF LETTERS LIKE THIS, TONS OF LETTERS AND WE PICK ONES THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE VIEWERS SO, THIS PARTICULAR ONE, LORNA PLAYED THE PART, RUSSELL AND A BUNCH OF FOLKS, MARIA AND RUSSELL SHOT IT WE SHOT IT ON LOCATION AND LORNA PLAYED THE PART OF THIS WOMAN AND I WAS CONCERNED WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER I SAID, BOY, I’M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER AND I WAS WAITING TO GET MAIL SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING AND WE PUT IT ON THE AIR AND QUITE THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED AND THIS IS THE EFFECT THAT WE HAD IN OUR AUDIENCE WE GOT BEAUTIFUL LETTERS AND EMAILS SAYING WE PRAY FOR THIS WOMAN, HER BABY AND I STILL GET CHOKED UP WITH IT NOW AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST WONDERFUL WE USE USED IT FOR A FUND-RAISING CAMPAIGN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE AND I SAID, WE RECRUIT PEOPLE AT EWTN FOR TALENT AND LORNA HAPPENED TO BE IN TOWN WHEN WE WERE SHOOTING THAT AND I SAID, HON, WOULD YOU PLEASE PRAY FOR THIS Jim: THE MESSAGE REALLY GETS ACROSS I KNOW LORNA I DIDN’T KNOW IT WAS HER AND I HAD TO SEE IT A NUMBER OF TIMES YOU KNOW, NOT STRONG FOCUS AND YOU GOT MOVING AROUND, BEAUTIFUL MUSIC, AND STRONG WORDS AND IT’S JUST WONDERFULLY, WONDERFULLY DONE Joy: YOU ARE IN THAT VIDEO, TOO? Guest: I’M IN THE NEXT ONE I GOT RECRUITED TOO! Joy: SO, LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEXT VIDEO ♪ Voice: I WAS AWAY FROM THE CHURCH ABOUT 20 YEARS I WAS A PROTESTANT AND I WAS HAPPY WHERE I WAS MY MOTHER WAS A REGULAR VIEWER OF THE NETWORK AND WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY, ONE OF THE THINGS SHE LEFT ME WAS MOTHER ANGELICA’S BOOK I READ IT AND I BEGAN WATCHING EWTN ESPECIALLY, THE DAILY MASS BEFORE WORK IT WAS THROUGH WATCHING EWTN THAT GOT ME GOING TO MASS EVERYDAY I’VE BEEN BACK TO THE CHURCH PROBABLY FIVE YEARS NOW AND MY PROTESTANT FRIENDS WERE WORRIED ABOUT ME AND I SAID, DON’T WORRY ABOUT ME I’M NOT DOING LESS I’M DOING MORE BECAUSE BEING CATHOLIC IS THE FULLNESS OF THE FAITH THANK YOU, EWTN FOR BRINGING ME BACK TO MY FAITH! ♪ Guest: AND I THINK THE BACK STORY ON THIS, MYSELF, J.B BROWN, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR OF ON-AIR PROMOTIONS AND WE WERE DOING INTERVIEWS, THE YEAR BEFORE LAST, A FAMILY CELEBRATION AND A WOMAN CAME UP AND SHE TOLD US THIS STORY SO, WE CHANGED IT AND PUT A MALE IN THERE BUT THESE WERE HER ACTUAL WORDS ABOUT HOW SHE CAME BACK TO THE FAITH Jim: AND WE THANK GOD FOR YOUR LIFE, FOR YOUR STORY, FOR YOUR WITNESS TO CHRIST REDEMPTION AND CONVERSION IN YOUR LIVES AND WE THANK YOU, THIS REMINDS ME OF MARRIAGE ENCOUNTER MAKING IT BETTER, WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH EWTN AND MAKING IT GOOD, BETTER, AND THAT THE GOSPEL REACHES TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH IN A BEAUTIFUL WAY WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WE’RE GOING TO HAVE DEBBY AND DAVID COWDEN DEBBY IS OUR PRODUCER AND WE THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS CHRISTMAS EVE! WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK! [APPLAUSE] ♪ ♪ [APPLAUSE] Joy: WELCOME BACK! I FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY WENT BING BONG, OUR GUESTS LEFT AND NOW NEW PEOPLE CAME AND NOW, WE HAVE A YOUNGER VERSION OF AN ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE COUPLE, DEBBY AND DAVE

COWDEN, NEWLYWEDS AND WE’RE SO EXCITED TO HAVE YOU BOTH! WE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED YOU WHEN YOU GOT MARRIED DAVE DIDN’T SHOW UP, HE WAS WORKING THAT PARTY! BUT IT WAS SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU, AND EVERYBODY LOVED SEEING OUR PRODUCER, THAT’S WHO SHES, THIS BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADY AND TELL OUR FAMILY AT HOME ON THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY OF CHRISTMAS EVE, ALL ABOUT THE COWDENS Guest: SURE I’LL START I GUESS I’LL JUST START WITH EXPLAINING HOW I GOT TO BE PART OF THE EWTN FAMILY, HOW I GOT TO BE PART OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH I GREW UP AND JUST IN A SMALL TOWN I ALWAYS HAD A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST I GREW UP AS A BAPTISTE AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING I NEVER BECAME DISGRUNTLED WITH MY FAITH I NEVER WALKED AWAY FROM THE FAITH AT ALL WHICH IS WHAT MAYBE MAKES SOME PEOPLE QUESTION WHERE THEY CAME FROM BUT FOR ME IT WAS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, A DESIRE FOR TRUTH, THE DESIRE TO KNOW MORE, TO KNOW THE LORD MORE AND UNDERSTAND WHERE HE IS IN THE WORLD THAT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE, THAT WAS WHEN MY BIG JOURNEY CAME ABOUT, TOWARD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND IT’S HARD TO SUMMARIZE BECAUSE I’M ALWAYS ASKED THAT, HOW I CAME TO BE WHERE I AM TODAY AND IT WAS JUST SO MULTIFACETED AND IF I HAD TO SUMMARIZE IT, IT WOULD BE A SEARCH FOR TRUTH, FOR BEAUTY AND I THINK THAT IS JUST SO EASILY EVIDENT IN THE SEASON, IN THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND IN THE ADVENT SEASON BEFOREHAND I NEVER GREW UP HAVING ADVENT AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, ALL THESE TRADITIONS THAT GO BACK MILLENIA AND TO HAVE THAT NOT ONLY TO HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS BUT ALSO TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNE WITH THE FAMILY OF GOD AND THINK THAT’S SOMETHING THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH REALLY HAS THAT, THAT NOBODY CAN REALLY LAY CLAIM TO AND TO BE PART OF THE FAMILY AND YOU SAY ON YOUR SHOW, BUT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNE WITH THE SAINTS AND ANGELS, AND OUR BLESSED MOTHER MARY AND TO HAVE A MOTHER IN HEAVEN THAT’S JUST BEAUTIFUL Guest: HE’S GREAT, ISN’T HE? Joy: HE IS WHERE DID YOU MEET? Guest: WE MET AT THE FRONT DESK AT THE RESIDENCE HALL HE WAS ON THE ROAD TO CONVERSION SO I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BUT HE WAS ASKING ME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FAITH, WHEN WE MET AND I JUST REMEMBER, HE WAS THERE FOR OTHER REASONS AND WHEN HE WALKED AWAY FROM THE DESK, I REMEMBER SAYING TO MY FRIEND, WHOEVER MARRIES THAT MAN IS A LUCKY WOMAN! AND IT WAS NOT UNTIL A YEAR LATER WHEN WE STARTED HE ASKED ME ON A DATE HE DIDN’T SAY, DO YOU WANT TO HANG OUT, NETFLIX AND CHILL, DO YOU WANT TO– YOU KNOW, HE SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON A DATE AND THAT JUST IMPRESSED ME AND THE WHOLE TIME WE WERE DATING, I WAS IMPRESSED AND FORTIFIED BY HIS FAITH AND FROM THE MOMENT THAT WE STARTED DATING, IT WAS, LIKE– Guest: FIREWORKS! Guest: RIGHT AND ON A JOURNEY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, GROW TOGETHER AND CLOSER TO GOD THAT’S REALLY CARRIED OVER INTO OUR MARRIAGE Joy: AND HOME IS WHERE FOR YOU? Guest: BIRMINGHAM Guest: WE BOTH CAME FROM OH — FROM OHIO AND OUR FAMILIES ARE ABOUT AN HOUR APART AND IT’S JUST BEAUTIFUL THAT NOW WE’RE TOGETHER, OUR FAMILIES ARE COMING TOGETHER AND LEARNING TO BECOME ONE FAMILY YOU KNOW, THAT’S A BEAUTIFUL THING Jim: AND YOU ARE MARRIED HOW LONG NOW? Guest: FOUR MONTHS Jim: HOW’S IT GOING? Guest: GOING VERY WELL AND WE’RE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS PREGNANT AND WE’RE SO EXCITED Guest: WE STARTED RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, I GUESS! Guest: AND THAT’S A BLESSING FOR US AND COUPLES SAY, YOU SHOULD WAIT A YEAR TO HAVE A BABY OR YOU SHOULD BE MARRIED A FEW YEARS BEFORE YOU HAVE KIDS BECAUSE YOU NEED TO LEARN TO BE A COUPLE TOGETHER, GROW TOGETHER, GO ON VACATIONS AND DO THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO BEFORE KIDS HOLD YOU BACK BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING 7 CHILDREN, WE NEVER HELD OUR PARENTS BACK! Joy: YOU MEAN YOU HAD 6 BROTHERS AND SISTERS? Guest: YES Guest: AND THAT’S AN INCENTIVE TO LOVE MORE FOR US TO START A FAMILY RIGHT AWAY WE WANTED TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN’T GIVE OURSELVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME SELFISH WITH JUST OURSELVES AND WE WERE OPEN TO LIFE, YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH ALWAYS TEACHES THAT A MARRIAGE, PART OF WHAT MAKES A MARRIAGE VALID IS THAT YOU ARE OPEN TO LIFE

AND WE TALK ABOUT FAMILY AND JUST MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE FAMILY IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE FAMILY UNIT, THE DOMESTIC CHURCH, IF YOU WILL IF YOU DON’T HAVE FAMILY, I CAN ARGUE, YOU KNOW, LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING BECAUSE IT’S JUST NOT THAT GREAT OUTSIDE OF FAMILY IT’S NOT THAT GREAT OUTSIDE OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS Jim: AND YOU ARE FAMILY NOW Guest: YES, THAT’S EXCITING AND IT’S NOT HIT YET, BESIDES THE MORNING SICKNESS BUT THAT’S HITTING PRETTY HARD DAVID HAS BEEN SO GREAT ABOUT TAKING CARE OF ME HE DID SAY ONE TIME THAT HE’S NOT USED TO BEING AROUND A HORMONAL WOMAN BECAUSE HIS MOM WAS NEVER LIKE THAT I DON’T KNOW WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT! BUT JUST SEEING THE WAY HE LOVES ME, PATIENT WITH ME AND LET’S ME SLEEP WHEN I’M TIRED HE GOES OUT AND GETS FOOD FOR ME WHEN I HAVE CRAVINGS FOR THINGS THAT HELPED ME SEE, NOT ONLY THAT, HE’S GOING TO BE A GREAT DAD AND ALSO, HE PUTS ME FIRST AND SO, I’M SAYING RIGHT AWAY THAT DAVE GETS THE IDEA OF SELF SACRIFICE AND GETS THE IDEA OF PUTTING SOMEBODY BEFORE HIMSELF SO, I THINK THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH OUR GREAT MARRIAGE PREP WITH FATHER JOHN PAUL Joy: AND HE GETS TO WATCH YOU GOING THROUGH YOURSELF SACRIFICE FIRST OF ALL, PARTICIPATING WITH GOD ALMIGHTY, GROWING A BABY IN YOUR WOMB AND EVERYTHING HAPPENING TO YOU CHEMICALLY, HORMONALLY AND HOW YOU ARE CHANGING THE GIRL THAT CAME DOWN THE AISLE, THAT’S IT! Guest: I ALREADY DON’T HAVE THAT FIGURE ANYMORE! Joy: AND HE’S WATCHING IF SHE CAN DO THIS, THAT’S HOW WHY I CAN DO THIS AND THAT’S HOW WE DISCIPLE EACH OTHER Guest: AND HOW COULD I NOT WANT TO START FAMILY RIGHT AWAY IT’S SO DYNAMIC, ENCOURAGING AND BEAUTIFUL TO SEE Jim: AND REALLY, THE CHURCH TEACHES ABOUT EVERY INDIVIDUAL BEING MADE IN THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD AND IN TERMS OF CHRIST BEING MARRIED TO THE CHURCH, AND CHRIST GRANTS THE GRACE, YOU HAVE A CHILD Guest: OR SEVEN Jim: YOU IMAGE GOD NOW AS THE TRINITY AND IT’S JUST INCREDIBLE A GREAT, GREAT BLESSING Guest: AND WE’RE PRAYING THAT GOD BLESSES US WITH A BIG, BIG FAMILY WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE OPTION OF ADOPTION WE WANT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF KIDS WE WANT TO EMULATE THE LOVE OF THE TRINITY AND SHARE OUR LOVE WITH EACH OTHER WITH OUR FAMILY AND NOT ONLY BE AN EXAMPLE OF SELF-SACRIFICIAL LOVE TO EACH OTHER BUT ALSO OF OUR CHILDREN AS WELL WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT OUR RELATIONSHIP AND SAY, WHAT IS WHAT TRUE LOVE IS THIS IS THE KIND OF LOVE THAT I WANT TO PURSUE WHEN I GET OLDER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I SEE AND MY PARENTS ARE GOOD EXAMPLES MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN MADE OVER 30 YEARS AND WE COME FROM GOOD STOCK Joy: AND THAT’S VERY IMPORTANT YOU CAN SAY, WE CAN DO THIS THEY ARE ORDINARY PEOPLE DOING EXTRAORDINARY THINGS AND GOD IS WITH THEM AND GOD WILL BE WITH US Jim: WHAT ABOUT YOUR GRANDMOTHER? Guest: AND MY 96-YEAR-OLD GRANDMOTHER, MY GOODNESS GIGI SHE’S A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF LIFE FOR OUR FAMILY AND SHE’S PART OF THE GREATEST GENERATION SHE GREW UP IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION AND BEEN A GREAT EXAMPLE TO ME ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE CONTENT AND WHAT IT MEANS TO WORK HARD BACK IN HER DAY, YOU SPLIT BANANA SPLIT WITH YOUR FRIEND BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T NEED TO EAT THE WHOLE THING YOU DIDN’T NEED TO HAVE THE NICEST CLOTHES BUT YOU HAD GOOD CLOTHES AND THEY WERE CLEAN AND SHE’S AN EXAMPLE OF THE DIGNITY OF LIFE SHE CAME TO LIFE WITH MY PARENTS WHEN SHE WAS 90, 91-YEARS-OLD AND PUT HER ON HOSPICE BECAUSE SHE HAD A BLOOD INFECTION SHE WAS DYING AND THEN, SHE STARTED GETTING STRONGER SHE WAS NOT PLANNING ON DYING ANY TIME SOON! Guest: AND SHE HAS THE APPETITE OF A 20-YEAR-OLD MALE! Guest: AND WHEN I LOOK AT MY GRANDMOTHER, I SEE A WOMAN WHO I DIDN’T KNOW VERY WELL GROWING UP AND DIDN’T GET TO KNOW HER UNTIL I WAS IN COLLEGE AND I LOOK AT HER AND I SEE, SHE’S SUCH A HUMAN BEING, WITH DIGNITY AND THERE’S SO MUCH TO LEARN FROM THIS WOMAN SO, WHEN SHE WAS, ETHIC– I THINK, 94, SHE COWROTE A MEMOIR WITH MY MOM AND IF MY 90-SOMETHING-YEAR-OLD GRANDMOTHER CAN WRITE A BOOK, I CAN DO TOO! Jim: LIKE JIM AND JOY GUESTS, SOUNDS LIKE GOOD ONES! SHARE WITH US BUT SHARE HOW YOU PRODUCE JIM AND JOY BUT WHAT

ELSE YOU ARE DOING AND PRODUCING HERE AT EWTN? Guest: I PRODUCE SEVERAL LIVE SHOWS I PRODUCE LIFE ON THE ROCK AND THAT’S A LOT OF FUN I GREW UP WATCHING LIFE ON THE ROCK AND TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE IT NOW, IT’S NOT WHERE I SAW MYSELF WHEN I WAS WATCHING IT Joy: DO YOU FEEL OLD? Guest: I FEEL A LITTLE BIT OLD I USED TO WATCH IT AND I GET TO PRODUCE MINISERIES BLUE CAR APOLOGETICS WITH JOHN MARTINONI AND I GOT TO PRODUCE SOME THINGS WITH THE SISTERS IN ANN ARBOR AND VARIOUS OTHER MINISERIES IT’S WHAT I WANTED TO DO WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS NOW IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE I WENT TO THE WALK FOR LIFE IN 2014 AND 2015 AND WORLD MEETING OF FAMILIES AND I HOPE I GET TO DO MORE TRAVELING Guest: WE NEVER EXPECTED, AT OUR AGES AND JUST WHERE WE CAME FROM, WHERE WE WOULD BE DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS DEBBY WOULD BE GOING TO AWFUL THESE BIG PLACES AND FILMING TELEVISION AND IT’S JUST SO EXCITING Guest: IT’S SO OPEN TO GOD Jim: AND I’VE SEEN YOU ON TV WHY ARE YOU ON EWTN? Guest: HOPEFULLY THEY DON’T SEE ME TOO MUCH I’M CAMERA SHY I DO SERVE THE MASS AT EWTN AT THE CHAPEL AND I USUALLY SERVE THE WEEKEND MASSES IT’S THE FRIARS, THE BROTHERS, THEY INVITED ME TO COME JOIN THEM AND SERVE AND THEY TAUGHT ME HOW TO SERVE BECAUSE I NEVER LEARNED SO, IT’S JUST BEEN A JOY I’M HONORED THAT THEY ASKED ME AND THAT, WE GET TO EAT BREAKFAST TOGETHER AND PLAY BOARD GAMES THEY ARE MY GUY CREW THAT I HANG OUT WITH! Joy: AND YOU DO IT ALL SO WELL IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN BORN AND RAISED TO DO THAT YOU BRING A BEAUTIFUL GRACE AND I LOVE WHEN I CLICK IT ON AND I SAY, OH, DAVE IS THERE! THAT’S REALLY NICE! Guest: AND THAT’S WHAT I SAY TOO Jim: AND WE’RE GETTING READY TO CLOSE OUT HERE TOO BUT YOU SAID, I NEVER LEFT THE FAITH IT’S GOOD BAPTIST UPBRINGING I’M ALWAYS STRUCK BY THAT IF WE GO TO CATHOLICISM FROM ANOTHER TRADITION WE’RE NOT REALLY LEAVING OUR FAITH IT’S THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, YOU ARE BAPTIZED, YOU ARE A BROTHER IN CHRIST AND YOU SAID, I WANTED TO GROW I JUST WANTED ALL THAT GOD WANTS FOR ME AND WE WANTED TO SAY TO YOU BOTH WHAT A BLESSING, YOU ARE YOU ARTICULATED WHAT MARRIAGE IS ABOUT, YOU ARE CARRYING A CHILD AND IT’S ALL BEAUTIFUL YOU ARE BLESSING MANY, MANY PEOPLE AND YOU ARE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WITNESS TO THE GOSPEL OF LIFE, MARRIAGE AND THE FAMILY AND I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WATCHING TODAY IS PRAYER FOR YOU AND WATCHING AND YOU BECOME MORE AND MORE OF THE EWTN LIVES AND WE THANK GOD FOR YOUR LIFE AND WITNESS AND MAY MANY BE MOVED BY IT THANK YOU VERY MUCH Joy: WE’RE GOING TO TANG ANOTHER BREAK AND WE HAVE MORE OF THE EWTN FAMILY PEOPLE WITH US! DON’T GO AWAY BECAUSE IT’S GOING TO BE A SURPRISE! Jim: IT IS, IT’S GOING TO BE A BIG SURPRISE AND WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK! [APPLAUSE] ♪ ♪ [APPLAUSE] Joy: WELCOME BACK! YOU ARE “AT HOME WITH JIM AND JOY”! AND IN OUR CLOSING SEGMENT TODAY, WE HAVE THE VERY SPECIAL DOUG KECK, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF EWTN AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER ALSO, HE HAS A BEAUTIFUL WIFE TERRY THAT WE SO WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY BUT SHE HAS NO VOICE SO, DOUG IS REPRESENTING TERRY WELL, WE HOPE AND PRAY SO, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE OUR BELOVED FATHER JOHN PAUL WITH US AND HE’S GOING TO BE WITH US WE’RE GOING TO JOAN IN ROME! Joan: WELL, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF YOU AT HOME FROM ROME! AS YOU SEE BEHIND ME, WE’RE IN SAINT PETER’S SQUARE CLOSE BY TO THE NATIVITY SEEN AND THE BEAUTIFULLY DECORATED CHRISTMAS TREE AS ALL OF US IN THE WORLD AWAIT THE BIRTH OF THE CHILD JESUS, POPE FRANCIS IS GOING TO CELEBRATE TRADITIONAL MIDNIGHT MASS IN SAINT PETER’S SQUARE AND IT’S SPECIAL BECAUSE IT’S THE JUBILEE YEAR OF MERCY

ON HIS DECEMBER AGENDA, WE’RE GOING TO HAVE ON CHRISTMAS DAY, THE CENTRAL BALCONY FROM SAINT PETER’S BASILICA HE’S GOING TO GIVE THE BLESSING TO THE CITY AND TO THE WORLD! THEN ON THE 27TH OF DECEMBER, FEAST OF THE HOLY FATHER, THERE’S A SPECIAL MASS FOR HOLY FAMILIES GIVEN BY THE POPE AND ON THE 31ST, A CELEBRATION OF EVENING PRAYER, THE SINGING OF THE TENNESSEE DEUM IN SINGING IT FOR THE YEAR JUST PASSED AND IT WAS IN 1982 WHEN POPE JOHN PAUL DECIDED A NATIVITY SCENE AND CHRISTMAS TREE IN SAINT PETER’S SQUARE EVER SINCE THEN, THE VATICAN TECHNICIANS, THE PEOPLE FROM THE SPECIAL OFFICES IN THE VATICAN HAVE SET UP VERY BEAUTIFUL MASSACHUSETTSTIVITY SCENES AND IN RECENT YEAST, SOME OF THE SCENES HAVE BEEN DONATED BY THE ITALIAN REGENTS SPEAKING OF THAT, WHOEVER DONATES THE INDUSTRY STANDING IN SAINT PETER’S SQUARE DONATES 10 OR 12 SMALLER ONES THAT ARE 10-12FEET HIGH TO DECORATE ALL OF THE VATICAN OFFICES, ROMAN CURIA AND SO FORTH AND SPEAKING OF THE NATIVITY SCENE, IN THE BASILICA, THERE’S ALWAYS A BEAUTIFUL ONE JUST UP THE LEFT HAND AISLE OF THE BASILICA ROME, I GUESS LIKE ANY OTHER CITY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR SEEMS SO ESPECIALLY MAGICAL! YOU HAVE RED FLOODING THE FLORAL MARKETS AND THE POINSETTAS ARE SEEN EVERYWHERE AND THE HOTELS SET UP FINERY AND PIZZAS IN THE STREETS ARE STRUNG WITH MILES OF SPARKLING LIGHTS AND EXPEL OUT MERRY CHRISTMAS! SO, THAT’S IT FOR TODAY BACK TO YOU JIM AND JOY AND HAVE A BLESSED CHRISTMAS! Jim: THANK YOU SO MUCH JOAN ANOTHER WONDERFUL REPORT IT’S JUST SO GRAND TO BE HERE ON CHRISTMAS EVE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, TO HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF EWTN COO, DOUG KECK HERE WITH US AND YOU ARE ALWAYS THE PRESIDENT AND THE COO OF EWTN SO WE WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR FAMILY Guest: WELL, I WOULDN’T BE HERE IF IT WASN’T FOR MY WONDERFUL WIFE, AND YOU KNOW AS WELL, SHE AND I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER, HOLY TRINITY HIGH SCHOOL IN HICKSVILLE, LONG ISLAND EVERYBODY WANTS TO REMIND ME WHERE I’M FROM! I WOULDN’T BE HERE WITHOUT HER GREAT FAITH AND COMMITMENT EARLIER IN THE SHOW YOU MENTIONED ABOUT MARRIAGE ENCOUNTER AND THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR JOURNEY, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING AND REFOCUSING ON THE FAITH AND COUPLE POWER THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION TO LEAVE NEW YORK AND COME DOWN HERE, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE BOTH DECIDED TO DO. ONE TIME, I REMEMBER HER SAYING, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ARE BEING CALLED TO DO THIS AND I SAID, NO WAY, CHIEF IF BOTH OF US ARE NOT CALLED TO DO, I’M NOT GOING IT’S GOT TO BE BOTH OF US AND THAT’S, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME, HER MOM HAD CANCER AND IT WAS CONCERNED THAT SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SURGERY AGAIN AND IF IT TURNED OUT TO BE THAT, SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO STAY AND SAY, WE COULDN’T GO BUT IT TURNED OUT MIRACULOUSLY OR WHATEVER, AND IT WAS FINE AND WE WERE ABLE TO COME ABOUT 19 AND A HALF YEARS AGO NOW AND THIS IS OUR 20TH CHRISTMAS IN ALABAMA AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE’RE BLESSED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE WHO COMES TO WORK AT EWTN IT’S HARD WORK LIKE ALL OTHER PLACES, AND THERE’S SPIRITUAL COMBAT THAT ALL OF US DEAL WITH BUT WE GET WONDERFUL BENEFITS, ETERNAL BENEFITS, WE LIKE TO SAY, AND CERTAINLY TO HAVE THE PRIESTS HERE, THE FRIARS AROUND AND THE SISTERS THAT WERE HERE TOO BEFORE THEY MOVED TO HANCEVILLE AND THE GREAT ABILITY OF KNOWING AT SOME SMALL LEVEL, YOU ARE REACHING OUT AND YOU ARE HELPING PEOPLE IN A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WAY ONE OF THE THINGS, I ALWAYS THINK, PEOPLE SOMETIMES SAY TO US, YOU ARE PREACHING THE CHOIR AND I SAY, HAVE YOU SEEN THE CHOIR, YOU CAN USE A LOT OF PREACHING! AND PART OF OUR AUDIENCE IS EVERYBODY IF ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT WE REACH IN OUR REGULAR BASIS WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE SHUT-INS OR PEOPLE IN HOSPITALS FACING THE END OF THEIR LIFE AND WE’RE COMFORTING THOSE PEOPLE, I THINK WE WOULD FEEL CONFIDENT FACING OUR LORD HAVING THAT ON OUR TICKET TO GET IN BUT I THINK WE’RE REACHING A LOT MORE PEOPLE AS MOTHER SAID, IN THE SUMMER BEFORE HER STROKE, EWTN IS POSITIONED WHERE THE LORD WANTS IT TO BE AND THINK THAT WAS VERY PROPHETIC BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LONG AFTER THAT THAT SHE HAD HER FIRST STROKE AND I WAS HERE FROM 1996 TO

2001 INITIALLY, I BECAME A VICE-PRESIDENT FAIRLY EARLY ON AND I HAD A LOT OF CONTACT WITH HER WE WORKED AND HAD A VICE-PRESIDENT MEETINGS AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND THINGS SO, IT WAS INTERESTING WITH MOTHER YOU KNOW, SHE HAD A STRONG VISION AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I ALWAYS THINK THAT WAS GREAT ABOUT HER SOMETIMES SHE SAID, AND I REMEMBER ONE TIME SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WELL, THE LORD TOLD ME AND THEN SHE SAID, WELL, WELL, I FELT LIKE THE LORD NOT LIKE I HEARD HIS VOICE OR ANYTHING AND I’M THINKING TO MYSELF, YOU KNOW, MOTHER, IF YOU TOLD US THAT THE LORD CALLED YOU ON THE PHONE, WE WOULD BELIEVE YOU! IF YOU SAID, I HEARD HIS VOICE IN MY HEAD, WE WOULD BELIEVE YOU AND THE FACT THAT, I’M SURE THAT THERE’S TIMES WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPENED TO HER BUT IT WAS LIKE THE HUMILITY TO SAY, NO, THIS IS HOW I FEEL BIT AND SHE WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK AND SHE ALSO WAS WRITE WILLING TO CHANGE HER MIND IF SHE FELT LIKE WE WERE GOING IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION AND DIDN’T SEEM LIKE THAT’S WHERE THE LORD WANTED US TO GO, SHE WOULD ADJUST Jim: CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU CAME DOWN TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE POSITION, WHEN YOU CAME FOR THE INTERVIEW OR IMPRESSIONS? WERE YOU ALONE OR– Guest: WELL, WE CAME DOWN AS A COUPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME Jim: TELL US ABOUT NAT YOUR SON, TOO Guest: OKAY FIRST WE CAME DOWN AS A COUPLE, BECAUSE I WANTED HER TO COME DOWN AND JUST SEE IF IN FACT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EVEN A VAGUE POSSIBILITY AGAIN, I THINK LIKE LEN AND LORNA WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM NEW YORK THINKING I’M GOING TO LIVE IN ALABAMA YOU KNOW THAT SEEMS, YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER KAITLIN THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING TO ALBANIA SHE WAS FIVE AT THE TIME AND SHE HAD NO CLUE WHERE WE WERE GOING WE CAME DOWN THE SECOND TIME WHEN WE WERE PRETTY MUCH GOING TO COME TO WORK HERE AND WE WERE IN THE STUDIO, THE LIVE SHOW, DEACON BILL WAS ALIVE, MOTHER ANGELICA WAS THERE AND DEACON BILL WAS BRINGING HER OVER AND SAYING, THEY ARE GOING TO COME TO WORK FOR US AND TERRY WAS, LIKE, I WANT TO COME AND SHE WAS, LIKE, OH, GREAT AND MATT WAS MUMBLING TO ME, SHE’S SO BEAUTIFUL SHE’S SO BEAUTIFUL AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MOTHER ANGELICA AND I TOLD THE STORY BEFORE MOTHER IS A WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL INSIDE PERSON BUT FOR AN AWETISTIC PERSON AT THE AGE OF, WHAT, 10, TO SEE HER AS BEAUTIFUL IN MY MIND MEANT THAT HE WAS SEEING WHO SHE REALLY WAS ANYBODY AS YOU KNOW, MATT KNOWS THAT HE’S SOMEWHAT, HE HAS HIS DOWNSIDES AS HIS SISTER REMINDS ME AND JUST AN ANGELIC CHARACTER TOO THAT WAS A GREAT INSIGHT HE HAD FOR MOTHER ANGELICA Joy: AND I’M SO GLAD YOU SAID YES I LIKE HAVING TERRY AS MY FRIEND Jim: WE REALLY LOVE TERRY Guest: SHE’S THE BETTER WHOLE IN OUR RELATION, MORE THAN JUST THE BETTER HALF! Joy: NO Jim: AND BEFORE I WAS GETTING TO KNOW YOU, WHAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT YOU WAS YOUR LOVE FOR HER AND FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND I THINK THAT’S SOMETHING MAYBE YOU DON’T TALK ABOUT A LOT BUT THAT ATTRACTED ME TO YOU I KNOW THAT BEFORE YOU OF THE AND IN THE END, THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THAT YOU LOVE THE LORD, YOU LOVE YOUR WIFE, LOVE YOUR KIDS AND YOU ARE CENTERED IN GOD AND IN YOUR FAMILY Guest: I HOPE SO AND WITHOUT PASSING COMPLIMENTS BACK AND FORTH, LIKEWISE, I FELT THE SAME THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT THEY DON’T GET TO BE ON TELEVISION NECESSARILY TO SEE IT AND FATHER USED TO SAY THE HOLIEST LADIES WERE THE LITTLE OLD ITALIAN LADIES IN THE BACK THE CHURCH SAYING THE ROSARY AND I HOPE THAT ONE OF THE GIFTS THAT THIS GIVES TO PEOPLE IN GENERAL IS FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE LIVING LIKE THIS AND THAT’S REALLY THE GOAL, NOT THAT WE’RE PERFECT THAT WE’RE STRIVING AND STUMBLING BUT YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE, IT USED TO BE ENOUGH TO BE A GOOD MOTHER GOOD PROVIDER A DAD WHO PUTS UP THE SHELTER BUT NOW, EVERYBODY HAS TO BE SOMETHING, FAMOUS FOR 10 OR 15 MINUTES AND WE KNOW, AS WE KNOW FROM PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER BOB AND PENNY LORD AND PENNY DIED, PENNY USED TO TELL A STORY, PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY, I WANT YOUR LIFE I WANT WHAT YOU HAVE AND SHE SAID, DO YOU REALLY? WELL, FIRST START OFF, HAVE YOUR SON DIE OF AN OVERDOSE AND JUST THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY HAS GOT STORIES, TALES AND

SUFFERING IN THEIR LIVES AND OUR FAITH DOESN’T TAKE IT AWAY IT MAKES IT SO WE HAVE A WAY OF DEALING AND UNDERSTANDING SUFFERING AND MOTHER DID THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF REDEMPTIVE SUFFERING Jim: I’M THINKING ABOUT WHAT MOTHER SAID, WE’RE POSITIONED RIGHT WHERE WE NEED TO BE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, ESPECIALLY JUST IN THE WORLD WHERE IT’S IN OUR COUNTRY WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE POSITIONED WHERE DO YOU SEE EWTN POSITIONED WHAT’S HAPPENING AT THIS TIME? Guest: WELL, AT THE TIME, I THOUGHT IT WAS NICE THAT SHE FELT THAT AND I WAS NOT SURE WHAT SHE MEANT WE DIDN’T KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN FROM US IN SUCH A WAY HE’S A WOMAN WITH THE GREATEST VOICE IN THE WORLD FOR THE FAITH, HAVING HER VOICE TAKEN AWAY GOD HAS AN INTERESTING WAY OF DOING THESE THINGS BUT I THINK WHAT IT IS, THANKS TO DEACON BILL AND MICHAEL WARSAW, OUR CEO WHAT WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE IS THAT CONTRARY TO WHAT MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MOTHER ANGELICA IS NOT, THERE, WHEN SHE’S NOT THERE AND MOTHER SAID TO US ONE TIME AND WE ASKED, HEY, MOTHER, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? IS THERE ANOTHER SISTERS THAT’S GOING TO STEP FORWARD? WE’RE THINKING LONGER TERM THAN SHE MIGHT BE AND SHE SAID, WELL, NO THIS IS MY MISSION IT WAS GIVEN TO ME I DON’T KNOW THAT THERE’S GOING TO BE ANOTHER SISTER SHE SAID, IF GOD WANTS IT TO GO ON, IT WILL IF HE DOESN’T, IT WON’T AND I THINK OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE BECAUSE WE’VE BEEN TRUE TO MOTHER’S MISSION, ADVANTAGIZING CATHOLICS AND SHE WAS REALLY AHEAD OF THE NEW EVANGELIZATION Joy: YOU’RE RIGHT, SHE WAS PROPHETIC Guest: RIGHT, PROPHETIC AND YOU KNOW, PUTTING ONE FOOT IN THE AIR AND QUEASY FEELING IN OUR STOMACH AND GOING FORWARD EVERYDAY AND EWTN IS EVERYWHERE I JUST HAD A MEETING EARLIER TODAY WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM AFRICA AND HE SHOWED AUS PICTURE WHICH HE TOOK OF A BACK OF A VAN IN NAIROBI WITH AN EWTN BUMPER STICKER ON THE BACK OF IT! SO, IT’S THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE YOU SAY, THE LORD HAS TAKEN IT AND HE MOVED IT FORWARD IT’S HIS NETWORK THE NAME IS IN THE TITLE, HE’S THE ETERNAL WORD AND MOTHER USED TO SAY I’M JUST THE DONKEY PULLING THE CART AND WE USED TO THINK SHE WAS A PRETTY GOOD DONKEY PULLING THE CAR AND THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, NOT EVEN ABOUT MOTHER ANGELICA IT’S CERTAINLY NOT ABOUT ANY OF US IT’S REALLY ABOUT THE TRUTH >> HOW DOES NEWS NIGHTLY DOING, HOW IS IT DOING AND BLOSSOMED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IS THAT HAVING? WHY DID WE FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN NEWS >> WELL, WE’VE BEEN DOING NEWS IN SOME FORM OR FASHION AND RAYMOND ARROYO HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, INTERVIEWING PRESIDENTS AND ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE AN HE’S DOING CULTURAL INTERACTION AND ALWAYS HAD A GOOD FEEL FOR THAT, FOR THE MEDIA AND ALSO, I THINK THERE WAS A SENSE OUT THERE AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT MICHAEL WARSAW AND SOME OF OUR OTHER SUPPORTERS, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS HAD A FEEL FOR PEOPLE WANTED TO TURN TO SOMEWHERE, I DON’T WANT ALL THE SPIN I REALLY WANT A NO-SPIN ZONE NOT ONE THAT O’RILEY TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUT A REAL NO SPIN TO IT THEY CAN SAY, I KNOW IT’S CATHOLIC SO I UNDERSTAND IT FROM A FAITH PERSPECTIVE I’M GETTING THE TRUTH AND I’M NOT GOING TO BE ASSAULTED I’M NOT GOING TO HAVE IMAGES ASSAULT ME SO, IF YOU ARE THE KIND OF PERSON THAT WANTS TO STAY UP WITH WHAT’S GOING ON, GET A GOOD CATHOLIC CONTEXT, HEARING THE POPE, AND SAYING FROM CNN OR THEY GOT BLOGS OR WHATEVER GOING ON THIS IS WHAT THEY REALLY SAID AND LET’S HEAR IT IN CONTEXT AND OF TOP OF IT, PEOPLE THAT ARE NEWS JUNKIES, AND YOUNG PEOPLE WITH 85 DIFFERENT DEVICES, IT’S A WAY OF A TOUCHSTONE, SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID THEY SAY HERE I LIST I LISTEN TO WHAT EWTN IS TALKING ABOUT, AND WHEN I HEAR IT ON FOX NEWS AND I SAY, LIKE A GOOD CATHOLIC, I DON’T RUN AWAY FROM THE WORLD I’M INVOLVED IN THE WORLD BUT I DEAL WITH THESE THINGS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE FAITH I MEAN, YEARS AGO, I AM OLD ENOUGH WHEN THEY USED TO HAVE THE RANKINGS AND I REMEMBER ONE OF THEM WAS A-4 YOU COULD GO TO THE MOVIE, ADULTS WITH RESERVATIONS WHEN I WAS A KID I THINK IT MEANT IF I BOUGHT THE TICKET YOU COULD GO AND THE FACT THAT YOU KNEW ENOUGH, FAITH AND UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU COULD WATCH THE MATERIAL AND NOT HAVE IT NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOU >> I WAS HOPE THAT I COULD DO, SOMETHING THAT I DIDN’T WANT TO DO, BUT LIMIT THE PRESIDENT OF

EWTN! OUR TIME IS RUNNING OUT FATHER, YOUR BLESSING Father: AND ON BEHALF OF OUR PRESIDENT DOUG KECK AND CEO, WARSAW, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT, ALL OF YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS, ALL OF THE SPIRITUAL AND MATERIAL CONTRIBUTIONS MAY THE BLESSING OF ALMIGHTY GOD, FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT DESCEND UPON YOU AND REMAIN WITH YOU FOREVER AMEN Jim: JOY TO THE WORLD, THE LORD HAS COME LET THE EARTH RECEIVE HER KING! AND LET EVERY HEART PREPARE HIM ROOM AND HEAVEN AND NATURE SING AND HEAVEN AND NATURE SING AND HEAVEN AND NATURE SING! MAY THERE BE A SONG IN YOUR HEART THANKS FOR BEING A PART OF THE FAMILY OF EWTN YOU ARE ALWAYS “AT HOME WITH JIM AND JOY” GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL OF YOUR LOVED ONES! BYE NOW [APPLAUSE] ♪